Bazz: "It seems that even though the CRU people have acknowledged their fiddling"

If there really is some official acknowledgement from CRU that they deliberately distorted the data, I'd like to see it. Got a link? If not, this is just a repeat of the breathless announcement of the CRU leak above.

You are right in saying someone else should independently look at the data, and you are right in saying this will take a long while. Short of an official admission of fiddling, this is what it will take to reveal what (if anything) is wrong with the papers they published based on it.

Assuming the data has been fiddled, it would nice to know how heavily the IPCC conclusions are based on it. That was we could get a feel for what sort of impact the fiddling has had on the IPCC report. I don't have a clue. Do you? If so, some links would be nice.

rstuart, yes you are right they did not acknowledge the fiddling.
They said it was legitimate fiddling.
They did admit it was all their own work.
No matter what, the situation is so bad and important and has the
wealth of the world hanging on it, they should not be given the benefit
of the doubt.
I really can't see what they are going to talk about at Copenhagen.

Talk at Copenhagen should include estimates of the degree of inflation that will result from ETS costs. ETS inflation impacting under developed nations must be considered.

Gees, with the election of Abbott this discussion came to a crashing halt.

The ETS is a fradulent scam anyway. Good riddance.

It looks like Global Warming has been outed anyway. Now we will have a Global Freeze. Check this out. ;-)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34242705/ns/technology_and_science-science/

SUBJECT: New World Order/So Called Man Made Global Warming

Hello,

I recently heard about a Documentary mentioned on a talk back radio show here titled “Fall Of The Republic” by Alex Jones.

I managed to download a copy for myself using Bittorrent. It was around 1.3GB

It deals with President Obama, what is happening in the United States regarding new world order and global warming.

It is extremely enlightening and parallels can be drawn with our current politics in Australia in relation to our Labor government's policies and Mr Turnbull(opposition Liberal Leader).

Let me tell you it reveals highly disturbing and frightening events which seem to be taking place on a global scale!

I would urge you to download a copy for yourself and watch it ASAP!

Alex Jones has a website:-

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fall-of-the-republic-exposes-how-brand-obama-is-destroying-america.html

As I say very alarming and certainly something which people should be made aware of ASAP.

Regards