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Help needed to restore lives shattered by abuse : Comments

By Cathy Kezelman, published 13/11/2009

Who will take responsibility for the more than 2 million Australian adults surviving child abuse?

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Cathy
Where does the Constitution give power to the Australian government to make laws on child abuse?
If you had to raise the money voluntarily to address these social concerns, that would be a perfectly acceptable alternative, wouldn't it? If not, then it's not about child abuse, it's about your desire to get money from people.
You have not given any reason for government to do anything.
Posted by Peter Hume, Sunday, 15 November 2009 7:07:23 PM
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Peter Hume
"Cathy
Where does the Constitution give power to the Australian government to make laws on child abuse?"
Peter,
The Constitution gives powers to the Federal Government to enact laws for the betterment of the Australian People.
The Constitution also states that The Federal Government is responsible for the Welfare of ALL of the People ALL of the time.
Now if you are born in any state or territory of this country and apply for a passport do you recieve a Qld,NSW,Vic,Tas,W.A,S.A,etc passport or do you apply and recieve an Australian Passport?
Do you or any on else recieve centrelink payments from State or Federal Government?
There are that many examples of the finality of the Federal Government over the State that it is ridiculous to try to list them all, eg Traviston Dam, Qld, just last week
Stop trying to pass the "buck" if there is a decrepency between State and Federal then the Federal shall take preference over the State.

Thanks
From Dave
Posted by dwg, Monday, 16 November 2009 8:08:58 AM
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Honeybunny,
"i.e. the child is not, nor was ever, at risk."

My son was removed on the allegation of Bashed and Starved(physical abuse)8/5/1997, taken for a complete Doctors examination 9/5/1997 Doctors report, "No evidence of physical or emotional abuse" my son stays in care, 17/5/1997 while my son is on access with his parents, the ones that made the allegation of(B&S) come to my yard and remove my son.
23/5/1997 Care application filed in wrong name,son stays in "care", then another care application filed the 5/6/1997 by a trainee D.O. and NZ'er not an indigenous worker, 10/6/1997 the parents solicitor dismissed, 30/6/1997 my son taken to Psychologist assessment without leave of the Court alleging emotional abuse,
15/7/1997 I have the criminal charge of "No Adequate Provision" dimissed, The solicitor that was dismissed by the parents turns up representing our son,16/7/1997 the Magistrate states there is no claim by the applicants that adequate provision is not being met for the child,etc etc
Year 2000 while recission application is going on access is reinstated and grows in time until a Dr and Professor of family and child matters is engaged by the Childrens Court to assess the long term placement of our son states that the child should be returned to the parents I have had only 15 minutes with my son 3/7/2005 and probably a dozen phone calls.

The Ombudsman,ICAC.Police Minister and also Commissioner,all Ministers and Directors-General of DoCS,The Attorney-General,
The DPP,at state level and the counterparts at Fedearal level have been contacted by both myself and my Parliamentary Members
All have stated there is nothing wrong,nothing they casn do,they will look into these matters, I don't even know where my son is the parents have separated etc etc

I would have liked to have commented on Cheryl,Desmond,Sheilaj,and Milgu's posts as well but have not the space but if anyone wishes to know more contact graysond49@yahoo.com

Quote"Any nation that does not care for and protect ALL of its children does not deserve the right to call itself a nation" Nelson Mandela
"I have a dream" Martin Luther-King

Thanks from
Dave
Posted by dwg, Monday, 16 November 2009 9:04:35 AM
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It is up to us to hold both the Federal and State Governments to their word and ensure this "never happens again" Present injustices need to be acted upon, the Forgotten Australian saga was not only until the 70s as has been perpertrated by the media, but extends way beyong to the present day.
The apology has opened many doors that will enable us to make them look and act.
Australia desperately needs a bill of rights amongst many other needs all at a high priority. A royal commission into the complete system of child protection past and present policies is a very high priority. We must learn from the past to move forward, these are words spoken by both leaders of Government, lets not let them leave them as just words.
The time to lobby is now, the hard work really begins, both sides of the government made statements they need to live up to and we need to ensure they do. The battle was won, the war continues. There are still 37 recommendations from the original 39 recomendations from the Senate Enquiry of 2004 that must be ratified and implemented.
Posted by sheilaj, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 12:26:40 PM
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Sheilaj
"This must stop it can never be allowed to happen again, our government must never have the ability to sweep past wrongs under the carpet again, they must acknowledge their past mistakes and correct the history of this country."

How is it going to stop? The legal Profession is part and parcel of the Problem.

"It is up to us to hold both the Federal and State Governments to their word and ensure this "never happens again" Present injustices need to be acted upon"

This is what I am trying to do, I can only operate on actual facts and the only documentary proof I have is the paperwork of my son's case. I have many stories from gaol, the street,people I have met over the years but only the paperwork of my son's case.
The crime of Kidnap holds no statute of limitations. Kidnap is the act of taking a child from his/her lawful parent or guardian by any act that is not prescribed to be lawful and the placement of any ransom or condition on his/her parent or guardian for his/her return.
That is what has happened with my son.
Even though DoCS workers Courts and etc have removed him this was not according to the laws or the Act of the time and not by lawful proceedures of the Courts, Hence KIDNAP.
All these may be part of government agencies or similar BUT they are not the government, hence they are all prosecutable only the government cannot be prosecuted but all that work for it are, hence any person that works for a government that proposed any law to cover this can be prosecuted for conspiracy as well.

What was those words once said give me the people I will return the world

Quote, "I HAVE A DREAM" Martin Luther-King

Thanks from Dave
Posted by dwg, Tuesday, 17 November 2009 1:22:34 PM
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