The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > K-Dudd: the heartless wonder > Comments

K-Dudd: the heartless wonder : Comments

By Jason Whittaker, published 6/11/2009

Kevin Rudd - Howard-lite as he was dubbed during the election. If anything it’s a fairly flawless reproduction.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. All
It took Howard more than eleven years to render to us the Australia many came to despise. But now some people want the Queen Mary turned around on a suicidal one dollar coin. I hope Rudd ignores these hotheads and continues with his Fabian approach.

By the way, his acheivements are significant to date - though probably not "sexy" enough for some. Tick Aboriginal Apology, increases for pensioners and carers, greater justice for people in less conventional relationships - too mention a few of the top of the head. And of course many more are underway.

Some people have no understanding, no patience and a reluctance to think.
Posted by LRAM, Friday, 6 November 2009 8:09:17 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
His other significant achievements:

He has wiped out the budget surplus,
He has created a refugee crisis where there was none before,
With his diplomatic background he has done more damage to the relationship with China and Indonesia than any PM in history,
He has concocted an ETS that will do little for the environment except increase energy costs,
He has broken a record number of promises,
He has set the scene for the high inflation, interest rates and unemployment that are trademarks of the labor government.

But we should be happy with the symbolic changes he has made?

It would be less of a risk if he played golf all day rather than trying to help me.
Posted by Democritus, Friday, 6 November 2009 9:34:25 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I do not think the asylum seeekers on the boat will be held in immigration detention in Indonesia. Those that are found to be refugee are not detained. They have lived there five years and seem well and the children well educated. Ony during processing which the government said wil be quick and also promised resettlement afterwards to be prioritised.
Posted by TheMissus, Friday, 6 November 2009 10:11:01 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
'Fair-minded Australians voted for this Prime Minister more in hope than anything'

I would say gullible minded actually.
Posted by runner, Friday, 6 November 2009 10:37:11 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Look when you look at his major traits:

- a true born again Anglican moral conservative
- extremely rich
- oddly impressed with the confucian/communist Chinese centrally directed society
- dreamed up ETS which will make the rich power suppliers, carbon brokers and Labor lobbyists richer - and poor households paying electricity bills poorer
- believes he has the intellectually given right to make life hell for his public servants, 24/7
- staffs his Ministry largely with lightweights who will not threaten or question his accumulation of power

you do get a leader who's burnt himself (and many others) out early, finger OFF the pulse, on the way to losing the plot.

Malcolm or Hockey or maybe Dr Sharman Stone then look like an alternative leadership group.

The scariest possibility, of course is The Abbott as PM - in which case I'd move to New Zealand.

Pete
http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2009/10/us-to-play-key-role-in-australian.html
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 6 November 2009 10:43:08 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
“This Prime Minister” never “promised” “laptops”. He promised to provide computers, whether or not they were laptops, to schools for all their year 9-12 students, a promise which is being kept.
He never promised “school halls” as part of the “education revolution”. They came later as part of the economic stimulus package.

What he promised as parts of the education revolution were a national curriculum, which is being developed; national testing, which has occurred for the past two years; more information for parents on individual school’s achievement, delivered in Victoria today; trade training centres in secondary schools, which are being delivered; cutting HECS for maths and science students who went on to become teachers, already legislated; tax refunds for educational expenses, already legislated; much greater investment for disadvantaged students, already funded; a six-week summer course for bright graduates to go into teaching, which is up and running.

The Victorian Labor Government has already delivered a serious investment in education.
The 2008-09 budget shows $7,312 million expenditure on education. The last Liberal budget, 1999-2000, showed $5,230 million expenditure on education. That’s an increase of 39 per cent (before inflation). In 1999-2000, which covers the last Liberal budget, the Victorian Government spent $6,758 per primary student (the second lowest in the country) and $6,605 per secondary student (the lowest in the country).

In 2005-06, the Victorian Government spent $8,767 per primary student ($2,009 more than the Liberals) and $11,329 per secondary student ($4,724 more than the Liberals). The CPI increased by 22.3 per cent between December, 1999, and December, 2005. Therefore, in 2005-06 dollars, the Victorian Government spent $8,265 per primary student in 1999-2000, compared with $8,767 in 2005-06, meaning that the Labor Government had increased expenditure per student by $502 or 6 per cent. In 2005-06 dollars, the Victorian Government spent $8,077 per secondary student in 1999-2000, compared with $11,329 in 2005-06, meaning that the Labor Government had increased expenditure per student by $3,252 or 40 per cent.
Posted by Chris C, Friday, 6 November 2009 1:29:58 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
These liberal hardheads must do life tough.
It must be like loosing a grand final every day.
Don't you say, well thats the will of the people, and make informed scrutiny.
Back bitchin will get you nothing but a gut full of ulcers.
How can they be called refugees after spending years in another country,or even crossing another country.
I believe Mr Rudd made a little mistake by apologising to the indig;
It has closed a door of real help to the indig comunity, by now not being able to separate the young from their hard line elders.
That is why they still live in camps in squallor.
Posted by Desmond, Friday, 6 November 2009 2:00:24 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
On second thoughts I mighht have been too critical of our Kevie.

His heart is in the right place, sometimes misguided, has tried to do too much too soon, hamstrung by some tired leftwing platforms, sons of earlier politicians, pre-bald rock stars and some ex unionists appointed as factional quotas.

Yet there is still time for such a talented individual to move in more sensible directions.

At least Labor isn't the fragmented hodgepodge led by that well-heeled, privateer or opportunity Mr Turnbull or happy go Hockey.

Rudd's party especially does not harbour that dark Darth Vader who exposes women's tax files while locking other's up. Abbott who strangely has positioned himself as the ideological elder statesmen of the thin Coalition is just biding his time until his more sincere Coalition competitors drop by the wayside.

Compared to the darkside that is today's Coalition Rudd and his people look pretty damn good.

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 6 November 2009 3:03:55 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
It is quite easy to achieve things when one comes to power with 'money in the bank'. Now that it's all gone, the way forward may be quite different considering the bank balance is now in the red.

What about his promise to take charge of the state run, or should I say, states shamefull attempt to run, our hospital systems.

Did he just run out of money before he reached the H's on his 'to do list'?

Did anyone see the program 'Q&A' last night. All that most of the panel did when the subject of the 'boat people' came up was asked Joe Hockey what he would do about the boat people, rather than tell us what they planned to do about it. As Joe rightly pointed out, several times,'we are not in power, you are! They still have no answers.

Furthermore, again, as stated on that program, what vessel captain in their right mind will assist in this type of debarcle again.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 6 November 2009 10:13:59 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Rudd's certainly been busy.

He created the Global Financial Crisis.
He invented Global Warming
He caused the escalation in violence in Sri Lanka that displaced 250,000 more people.

On the plus side, so far he hasn't gotten us seriously involved in two never-ending wars, flogged off most of our Public assets (mostly to overseas owners), brought in a regressive tax system, handed out disproportionately large tax cuts to a tiny minority, encouraged increasing personal debt, made huge cuts in essential services or stacked the Public Service with political cronies - because somebody else beat him to it.

He's certainly made some political mistakes but even at his worst, so far he's still better than the alternative.
Posted by wobbles, Saturday, 7 November 2009 1:37:53 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Wobbles; encouraged increasing personal debt

Try explaning this to the hundreds of first home buyers he has sucked in to high debt levels just so they can have their dreams shattered with increasing interest rates.

As usual, they got it wrong. A much smarter approach would have been to provide first home buyers with a guaranteed interest rate of say 3%, locked in for 5 years and give an interest free loan of say $20K as a deposit to be paid back over say 10 years.

Now if one can't afford a home at 3%, then they can't afford a home period.

Now as for the selling of public assetts. I am assumming you are referring to Telstra.

Despite the fact that I did not agree with this, the fact remains that the sale of testra was only deemed neccesary due to labor's record debt levels they left behind the last time they were let loose with the keys to the safe.

Somehow, this effort appears to be heading down the same path, only, what will be left to sell next time?
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 7 November 2009 6:42:25 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Krudd is a mee-too experiment in marginal political appeal.

Like the writer said “At least Howard had conviction - Rudd just has robotic rhetoric.”

And as he summed up

“No vision. No conviction. No heart.”

I will never understand so many people think that, when 90% of what matters in our lives exists only in our individual mind set, giving authority over the remaining 10% to some parliamentary representative to manage on our behalf is going to make a hoot of difference to their lives; rather than using their personal efforts to improve their personal circumstances by administering that 10% for themselves..

The great thing which the Howard years gave us was stability of environment, where once the thugs of the wharfs and building sites had been curtailed, the rules of commerce and business were stable, the government withdraw from commercial ownership (through monopolies) and people could go on about their business without reams of regulations being continually added to, largely to appease the ego of some tax-paid functionary.

The reward for that stability was super growth, the paydown of public debt and creation of the budget surplus, which the incumbent Krudd government has promptly squandered on an ineffective dimulous package.

As Margaret Thatcher said, regarding debt financed socialist profligacy

"If one generation is expected to carry an excessive burden on behalf of another, it will seek by every means to avoid it. It will either demand that past promises are broken, or it will not work, or it will not pay taxes, or the most talented people will leave. Socialist governments which have tried to tax 'till the pips squeak' have ample experience of that."

Like runner said “'Fair-minded Australians voted for this Prime Minister more in hope than anything'

I would say gullible minded actually.”

Well lets hope they have learned the price of their gullibility, in believing the lies of any socialist promising utopia and cast their vote in a more sensible direction, behind liberal candidates
Posted by Col Rouge, Saturday, 7 November 2009 12:49:18 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
You have got a funny idea of a socialist.
Particular things are best left in govt; hands.
Any one that is finding .5% rise in interest rates makes things hard for them should not have been granted a loan in the first place.
You don't have to be a professor to work out rates are going to rise and fall from time to time.
You will just have to downsize your rediculous amount of squares.
I need rates to rise more yet, some of us have to live off our interest
you know.
Posted by Desmond, Saturday, 7 November 2009 2:25:58 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Only a rusted on Labor life-member would think that Rudd is not our worst Prime Minister yet. I agree with Democritus and others. The man is a dicator and control freak.

He is starting to really stink with his 'Indonesian Solution' to illegals. He was sooooo sure, in his arrogance, that he had fixed up a deal with the Indonesian President. Now he is looking like a real fool; it's not going to work.

We are now hearing about 'contingency plans'. My money says that there is only one 'plan' - to cringe in the face of Indonesian resistance (the don't bother with the internationl law of the sea) and bring the illegals to Christmas Island and then to the mainland.
Posted by Leigh, Saturday, 7 November 2009 2:32:43 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
rehctub,

Actually Telstra was sold to continue finance Commonwealth Pensions (ie Those of the Politicians and the remnants of the Commonwealth Public Service still under the Commonwealth Super Scheme - not the Aged Pension as some would believe.)

This funding shortfall was due to Costello deliberately not funding it annually for several years to make to Budget bottom lines look better.

Telstra was certainly not the only department sold. Some were privatised but most were simply sold off to private corporations.

As for debt, Howard - like most Western governments - was blindly following the (now discredited) Greenspan doctrine of keeping corporate profits high by putting downward pressure on wages and flooding the economy with cheap credit to make up the difference, then convincing everybody that they were somehow suddenly wealthier because the price of Real Estate had gone up and interest rates would always be low as long as he was kept in power.

Despite the recent rises, they are still lower than they were a couple of years ago.
Anybody who overcommits on the assumption that interest rates would never ever go up deserves what they get.
Posted by wobbles, Saturday, 7 November 2009 7:38:39 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
You know wobbles, this old 'howard and low wages thing' is well past it's use by date.

Skilled labour was fetching record pay rates under the howard government, and you know it. Unskilled may well have suffered, but then, your alternative is to up the pay rates for the low skilled and watch the major employer of 'low skilled workers', our manufacturing industries, go off shore.

You know, you geniusses are so hell bent on looking after the bottom third that the top third, the potential employers of these people will still make their huge profits, only, they will be made 'off shore' and attract 'zero taxes' back home, which by the way, is the funding pool used to provide the bottom half with a decent standard of living.

Well done mate, take a bow!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 8 November 2009 9:09:04 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
To quote Whittaker: "No vision. No conviction. No heart.

"No hope."

May I add: No surprise
Posted by Darron C, Sunday, 8 November 2009 12:07:38 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
rehctub,
Real wages DID fall under Howard's Workchoices, the voters agreed and the following Fair Pay Commission judgements reinforced that fact.

Furthermore and despite Howards's alleged largesse toward the big end of town, employers continued to go off-shore in droves - so much for them sticking around to provide the "bottom third" with a decent standard of living.

Trickle-down economics has been tried before and has failed every time.

Profit before people.
Posted by wobbles, Monday, 9 November 2009 1:23:40 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Howard Didn't Want To Except Responsabiltiy Of Saying Sorry To The Stolen Generation Or The Forgotten Australians,

Also Howard Had Let Boat People Through ,

The Liberals Still Have His Help,

If You Notice,

Mr Rudd Has Done One Thing Apologised To The Stolen Generation.

Mr Rudd Will Also Be Apologising To The Forgotten Australians,On 16th November 2009,

Remember We Were The One's Howard Didn't Care About , The Raped And Abused Victims That His Goverment Was Aware Of When He Was In Power.

Lets Hope Mr Rudds Apology Is Meaning full And With His Heart And Not What His Advisors Tell What To Say, On This Day The 16th Of November,
2009,

No Doubt I will Get Some Feed Back From Someone Maybe None At All,

Mr Rudd Is Not The One Ripping Us Off In The Big Super Markets Its The Big Super Markets ,

Mr Rudd Is Not Ripping Us Off With Our Petrol And Deisel And Gas Its Those Companies,

Its Not Mr Rudd Its The Lawyers That Are Ripping The Victims Off When They Take Action Against Compo,The Lawyer Gets More Than The Victim.

Its The Employers Sacking There Workers Not Mr Rudd,

Its The Past Goverments That Continued With The Coruptions, Maybe Mr Rudd May Started Sorting This Out Soon,

We Can Choose What We say When We Like Guess Not,

This Is A Opinion Forum Correct,

Why Should The Goverment Not Pay The Victims More Compensation Than Is Been Tabled And Why Are These Churches Not Paying Compensation To The Goverment,And Victims.

Will Some Of You Out Their Think About Those Who Have Fought For Justice For Many Years And Give Them A Slap Down Like The Previous Goverments,And Rape And Abuse Them Like The Courts And Goverments Have Done,

And Let The Perpertrators Roam Our Society Free Knowing They Got Away With What They Did To Us Victims,

Im A Real Forgotten Australian And Always Will Be Just Like Many Other Thousands Of Forgotten Australians

HUFFNPUFF
Posted by huffnpuff, Monday, 9 November 2009 2:55:09 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Wobbles; Have you actually seen the 'blue print' for the new fair pay awards. If anything, many will be worse off, esspecially if they don't like their new conditions as they don't have anyone to help in disputes other than a personal legal challange.

I don't recall to many companies going off shore during the WC erra, but feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Hufnpuff:Howard Didn't Want To Except Responsabiltiy Of Saying Sorry To The Stolen Generation Or The Forgotten Australians,

Most of us are sorry for what happened, but, one does not appologise for something they didn't do.

You say; Mr Rudd Is Not The One Ripping Us Off In The Big Super Markets Its The Big Super Markets ,
Are you aware they have a net profit of around 3%! Now if you reduce their prices by 3% no one will notice will they.

Its The Employers Sacking There Workers Not Mr Rudd,

Wrong! Employers recact to the laws put in place by governments, like UFD. They often sack people becasue of the possible problems they may encounter.

Furthermore, many workers are about to loose their jobs in the insulation field because Mr Rud had shifted the goal posts 'mid-stream' and many potential customers will either not proceed or cancel their pre-booked work.

Some 'small companies' have recently invested millions on new plant to meet the demand and they now face ruin because of Krudds actions.

As for the 'forgotten Australians', I don't know what this is about, but, I hope it our seniors. The ones who have helped carve this nation only to be left on the scrap heap.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 9 November 2009 6:21:51 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Oh no! the lefties had just figured out that they voted for the most right wing prime minister since Menzies. Was hoping they never find out

Rudd will also making the following appologies

to Aborigines
to the Greeks and Italians for being racially villified as "Wogs"
to Asians for being racially willified as "Nips"
to Islam for them following a evil religion
to NSW people for having to put up with the NSW Labor government
to the next generation for leaving them with billions of debt to payoff
to restaurant owners who will have to shut their business and lay off staff because of changes to IR law
If you are not feeling well today, he is also happy to say sorry, as long as you continue to vote for him

He will also be saying sorry for being a weak useless leader who is always saying sorry for things down 100 years ago and not down by him.
As long as there is a vote in it
Posted by dovif2, Monday, 9 November 2009 1:45:18 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
That's a very impressive list of expenditure Chris C. I know this might sound a petty question but, do you have any results from all this public expenditure?
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 7:31:57 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Spindoc

Result with the borrowing to finance the Internet rollout (42 billion)

We will be paying interest of about $4 billion a year to cover Rudd's spending. that does not include repayment

That means $4 billion not going to Hospital, future infrastructure, school etc.

And if Copenhagen gets up, we will be paying for the infrastructure of India/China by paying them a few Billion a year, so they can go green.

It will be a deficit that Whitnam would be proud of
Posted by dovif2, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 9:08:26 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I agree with the author on this one by 100% & here is a link that tells us of the GDP figures being slightly fudged. http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/09/unemployment-jobs-report-labor-department-opinions-columnists-brian-s-wesbury-robert-stein.html?partner=daily_newsletter Political gain & constant rhetoric are his favorite pastimes & being a person that has had personal dealings with the man, I can say Rudd is a backstabbing coward of a man that has done nothing more than set us up for failure. I don't know anyone in their right mind that want's to pay a third tier tax.
Posted by Atheistno1, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 2:51:42 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Despite the fact that Krud has had some tough times to deal with in his two years, at least he came to power with record employment, from high business confidence and money in the bank.

Notwithstanding the fact that he has failed his first ‘real challenge’, the boat people, he has created a mass ‘loss in confidence’ throughout the business community with his failed management of major stimulus projects.

Now it’s all well and good to say that his personal stimulus packages and government funded schemes helped employment, but, it was like throwing petrol on to wet wood to start a fire.

Shaw, if you have enough petrol the fire will start, however, if your petrol runs out, as it has and, the fire has not started, which it hasn’t, then what!

Solar and insulation are two schemes that come to mind. Here we have a situation where he has started an employment creation scheme, of grand proportions, and he has run out of money, mid stream, so he has shifted the goal posts.

Now how many of these employees, who thought they had reliable work, and rightly so, have committed themselves to debt. What now!

Do they loose their car, boat, house?

So now what! We have contractors facing ruin, both through high investment in plant and equipment, which was much needed to meet demand and some sticky situations whereby contractors may be legally committed to jobs but are now going to be $400 per job out of pocket. That’s 25% of the job value slashed!

Moving forward we may have to deal with the ETS taxes he is wanting to impose.

This will simply increase costs, which will ultimately be passed on to the consumer who, has less money to spend and less confidence to spend it as they don’t know if their jobs are safe.

Just remember, when the dust is settled and Krud has run his race, in either 1, 2 or 3 terms, he will still be a very wealthy man, but will we!
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 6:53:00 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
spindoc,

I am sorry I have taken so long to get back. I tend to check if there have been any responses to my posts for a few days and then go on to other things.

There have been definite improvements as a result of that expenditure. The Victorian auditor-general’s reports showed higher test scores among primary students, but not among secondary students, so naturally the media headlined the latter and not the former. Victoria is first or second of all the states in almost all NAPLAN tests. Of course, we have to remember that most students spend 13 years at school and an improved investment in one year will not turn around past years of neglect. If you looked over the past two and three decades, you would see a decline in teacher pay and in the entry scores for teacher training, but the effects of this decline are moderated by the fact that the system still has in it many of the highly able teachers who joined the profession years ago. By the same token, the recent increase in teacher pay should lift the entry score for teacher training, but the system will still have the lower ability people in it who came in when entry scores were lower. Nor is expenditure the only factor in educational success. There are other steps that the Victorian government has taken and is taking that will add to the state’s achievements. It is worth looking at the fees of top private schools of around $20,000 to see what parents who value education and have the money are prepared to pay. By contrast, the last time I checked, Australian public school costs were about $11,000 per student.

You can see longer discussions in my posts at:
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/meganomics/index.php/theaustralian/comments/the_debt_baby/

and
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/meganomics/index.php/theaustralian/comments/judicious_regime_oversees_steady_state/
Posted by Chris C, Monday, 16 November 2009 5:48:48 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Rudd’s greatest flaw has not even been alluded to by the article author or one single respondent, as far as I could see.

This is his massive acceleration of our national growth rate, via record-high immigration, a boost in the baby bonus and the espousal of his ‘big Australia’.

This is exactly what we don’t need at this point in time. We desperately need the opposite. We need to head directly towards a sustainable future in which the number of people and the demands they make on our resource base and pressures they exert on our environment can be brought in to balance.

Rudd doesn’t have the slightest mandate for his massive expansionist position. He didn’t mention anything about boosting immigration or steering Australia towards a population of 35 million by 2050 in the election campaign or beforehand.

This means that he is either making his policy direction up as he goes along or he has deliberately and gravely misled the Australian people by way of not expressing his intentions in regard to this all-important aspect of governance.

After eleven years of Howard’s very high immigration and worship of continuous growth, it was time for a huge change. It was quite desperately time for a reversal of that sort of policy, with a careful winding back of immigration, a termination of the ridiculous baby bonus and an espousal of a population level of not more than 25 million, accompanied by a steady state economic system.

It was high time for the dinosaur era of continuous-growth-with-no-end-in-sight madness to end.

So what did we get? Rudd, the ultimate antisustainabiliyist!
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 3:58:00 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I find it ironic, that Rudd has so many people entranced in his rhetorical campaign of lies to enforce a third tier tax system on us. The wonderful thing about science is, if you do an experiment one way, you will get a result of which you are looking for but if you incorporate other factors, it will give a completely different outcome depending on the factors incorporated. The elephant in the room they don't want to talk about is deforestation. The last wilder beast migration left on earth is in South Africa & the way the forests are being burnt & depleted means they will turn to baron plains. Baron plains = desert conditions & the drying up of the last river of support & deserts mean no trees, water or rainfall & that = higher temperatures. Just like a desert that melts snow & ice.
Posted by Atheistno1, Thursday, 26 November 2009 8:47:30 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy