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A modest proposal for the extirpation of pedophilia : Comments

By John Spender, published 5/10/2009

Understandably pedophilia excites public rage and condemnation but it doesn’t mean pedophiles should be treated as social outcasts.

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Well the debate would be more useful if all those concerned about them living in their community were also commited to serious action to remove access to porn which is the breeding ground for this deparved behaviour which dramaticly alters attitudes and behaviour to the lasting damage of themselves and their victims.
Posted by Paulo, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 9:28:40 PM
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Phanto is right on the money.

The same analysis can be applied to other contentious public issues.

A friend of mine works for the prison system.

He asserts that most people would be horrified if they knew how many around them, on a beach one sunny Sunday for example, have been released from prison.

What if parents in the area taught their kids to stay away from him --just like they would with traffic, snakes, spiders, large dogs, herbicides, medicines, swimming pools etc etc etc.

The average City-Dwelling-Parent won't even let their precious offspring walk or ride a bicycle to school. Just one of the myriad of reasons why the average 18 year old male has the maturity of a 13 year old a couple of decades ago.

Or even more radical, teach their 5 year old how to execute a two fingered eye jab or a palm heel to the nose. Or is it against the law for 5 year old to protect themselves in NSW?

People love to hate someone for some reason.

The Greens are experts in tilling this emotional garden.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 12:18:51 AM
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There is a real opportunity here. Australia was founded primarily upon convict stock shipped out from Britain; the same people have now created a Nation that is a now a most desirable destination that leads the G20 economies in spite of the GFC. There is a moral here somewhere, and an opportunity; we can help ourselves and the rest of the world.

We now find ourselves with a surplus of the humanity that created Australia; why not ship our “surplus to requirements” to the rest of the world? We can send them “free on board” in containers, a few air holes drilled in of course; let’s face it that’s how most migrants seem to arrive in Europe nowadays.

Suggested categories might include, but not be restricted to:

• Drug Dealers
• Drug users
• Gay Priests
• Pedophiles
• Murderers
• Rapists
• Serial killers
• Solicitors
• Family Court Barristers
• Corrupt Police
• Corrupt Police Commissioners (one only in stock, Sir Terrence Lewis)
• Corrupt Judges/Magistrates
• Union Officials
• Human Rights Activists
• Greens
• Social Democrats
• Lobbyists
• Bankrupt Financiers
• Petty Bureaucrats
• Self Sustainability basket weavers and fruit juice drinkers
• Social Security Abusers
• Indigenous Peoples’ “Social Engineers”
• Emotionally Obsessive and Cheque Book Journalists

John Spender rules out transportation however, since it has proved to be so effective in the past, why not?
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 8:43:12 AM
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Have to agree with phanto that the hysteria surrounding pedophelia 'may just mean that there is a lot more sexual abuse happening in society that has not been labelled as criminal'.

Young women are in a privileged position to learn a little of the 'ways and means' of men - and often the hard way.

But because they are not children, they are seen as fair and legal game.
Posted by floatinglili, Friday, 9 October 2009 6:18:14 PM
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"The raised level of hysteria does not necessarily mean that sexual abuse is a worse crime than any other crime. It may just mean that there is a lot more sexual abuse happening in society that has not been labelled as criminal."
Er Phanto could you please elaborate. Please give some examples of sexual abuse that has not been labelled as criminal.
We are dealing with sexual abuse of children. It seems that the life-long impact of such abuse may indeed be worse than death.
Posted by blairbar, Sunday, 11 October 2009 8:24:23 PM
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Blaibar –‘Please give some examples of sexual abuse that has not been labelled as criminal.’ I mean that is not labelled criminal until someone is charged and it is out in the open.

‘We are dealing with sexual abuse of children. It seems that the life-long impact of such abuse may indeed be worse than death.’

Since we have no evidence to tell us what it is like being dead we can not say that anything is better or worse than it.

Some people suggest that sexual abuse is worse than other types of abuse. This often says more about their attitudes to sex than it does about their attitudes to abuse. The results speak for themselves. There are some very broken people in our society that were never victims of sexual abuse but suffered other types of abuse. There are also many fine human beings who have overcome sexual abuse and gone on to lead fulfilling and happy lives. It is not logical to make sweeping assertions and that in itself can be a sign of an emotional response rather than a reasonable one.
Posted by phanto, Sunday, 11 October 2009 9:33:58 PM
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