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On reclaiming Christianity from the West : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 17/9/2009

Maybe we would stop stereotyping non-Christians if we stopped stereotyping Christianity.

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We can ascribe anything not yet comprehended to god, or keep digging for answers.

I'll go with digging for answers, because I prefer things like medicine and electricity to living in a cave praying to god to cure my family of smallpox.
Posted by Sancho, Saturday, 19 September 2009 11:39:29 AM
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David F, Re "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."

I have no argument with that, yes I also believe GOD is not concerned with humans daily activity from a PERSONNAL point of view, rather that GOD is EVERYTHING - "the orderly harmony of what exits". This is the GOD I believe in and that I understand Einstein to believe in.
Posted by jakkelaas, Saturday, 19 September 2009 12:03:18 PM
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The Atheists embrace a belief system as intolerant, chauvinistic and bigoted as that of religious fundamentalists.
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 20 September 2009 12:38:30 AM
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Constance wrote: The Atheists embrace a belief system as intolerant, chauvinistic and bigoted as that of religious fundamentalists.

Dear Constance,

That is just name calling not reasoned argument. If a person is an atheist because that person decides the available evidence does not support a God and that person feels that there is no need to believe in a God, atheism is a reasonable stance. That is neither intolerant, chauvinistic and bigoted nor a belief system.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 20 September 2009 2:16:34 AM
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Back to Irfan's essay for a minute. I still find it ironic that Muslims have arrived back into Western societies at the very same time that Christianity is in rapid decline and ripe for collapse. And so, there is very little meaningful Christianity to be 'reclaimed'.

The problem for Muslims is not that Australians see Christianity as a 'white' religion but that we find monotheism itself laughable. After 2000 years Jehovah/Allah has finally made it (inevitably) too the same status as Woden and Thor.

That Jehovah/Allah is the same status as Woden and Thor is not an arrogant or bitter assertion, but rather a mere statement of truth. Monotheism has been debunked.
Posted by TR, Sunday, 20 September 2009 8:35:59 AM
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jakkelaas,

May we have a citation please? The commentary I have seen is to the effect that Einstein did not believe in QM, hence the quip, "God doesn't place dice with the universe". Here, he was saying a figurative god does not allow uncertainty.

Constance,

I agree with david f. You merely name calling.
Posted by Oliver, Sunday, 20 September 2009 10:44:01 AM
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