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Climate change: enough science, now for the politics : Comments

By Mike Hulme, published 11/9/2009

Science can prove global climate change is happening, but it won't tell us what to do about it.

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Isn't it great thought that climate change has proved so profitable, especially for the big banks who are about to get a slice of the $2+ trillion a year carbon trading business?

It is kind of a shame on us all however that while they are enriching themselves we are actually ignoring the majority of man's environmental destruction like: over-fishing, top soil erosion, oceanic plastic, deforestation (that is increasing), water resource depletion, the disappearing bees, GM crops, Oil spills (like the massive and largely unreported one happening right now off Australia's coast), agricultural pollutant run off killing corals, invasive species introduction, mercury from discarded low energy light bulbs, smog, Asian haze....I could go on

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Posted by James Fairbairn, Saturday, 12 September 2009 5:39:31 PM
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Spindoc I totally agree and my next post was going to be the derision in which nuclear energy is held by the general public due to scare mongering - usually by the greens but politicos in general. Since school age and that is a long time ago, I have wondered why this country has not taken advantage of an energy source, a clean one at that, to provide power. Politicos seem scared to death of making the move. They must know it is efficient and almost risk free now. We have an energy resource we are selling overseas that could make all our lives and those of our children and grandchildren more enriched and living in a debt free country with clean energy....what is wrong with these people? Do they have no insight or can't they think outside of the square of political expediency?
Posted by RaeBee, Saturday, 12 September 2009 8:24:33 PM
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RaeBee .. we've been "Caldicotted" .. that is, had our politicians and children scared by bogeymen and catastrophics.

If people like Caldicott had not had the effect they did with their hysterical scaremongering, we might be 30 years ahead in Nuclear Energy power station development.

See how far something like a motor car has come in 30 years ..

Now we're seeing this effect again with the current hysteria, except we're having hobby renewables foist on us..

James, I agree, we could all clean up our act, but the big game now is Climate Control - call it what it is, these folks want to control the weather. So everything else gets pushed aside so much that your average person, will just give up on the little things I fear.
Posted by rpg, Saturday, 12 September 2009 10:07:28 PM
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rpg, I love your expression “Caldicotted”. Her recent publication was one of the best examples of ignorance, misinformation and malevolent trash I’ve seen on yonks. Its sad that such people get air time, it’s even sadder that so many of us are too lazy to get the facts for ourselves and as a result we have become vulnerable to such opinions.

Public ignorance leaves space for politicians to create votes, were it not for this situation I doubt there would be a Green Party in Australia. This movement would have us believe that we can get rid of coal, use renewable energy and avoid nuclear power generation. The one thing politicians have not told us is how? Because it is simply unachievable, political, feel good rubbish.

Mike Hulme wants political “solutions” because if the utter futility of so called “green” solutions were made public the voter backlash would change the political landscape.

ReaBee, a colleague of mine in the UK is an engineer and has worked in the nuclear industry for 35 years; he now has his own consulting business. Most of his work now is trying to undo the “Caldicott Syndrome”. He runs workshops that present facts rather than opinion. He tells me that he gets two distinct reactions from clients. One is anger and frustration that they have been misled by so much rubbish. The other reaction is what he describes as “religious ferocity” from those who refuse to allow their ideological opposition to be disturbed by reality.

Kevin Rudd has announced this week, a federal investment of $135,000 to test any shift in public opinion in relation to nuclear energy as a possible option.

It will be interesting to observe just who and what crawls out of the woodwork.
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 13 September 2009 8:22:22 AM
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Yes indeed Spindoc it will be interesting. I believe the Federal Government would love to turn back time and act on creating clean nuclear energy but they have been backed into a corner. Still, if they get the slightest inkling that there might just be a swing toward people accepting nuclear energy they might take the plunge. Personally I think it is a vote winner if people are properly informed. The "not near my home" syndrome would have to be overcome but that is the same for any beneficial change.
Posted by RaeBee, Sunday, 13 September 2009 4:29:19 PM
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It is not that modern nuclear energy power plants are the problem it is the waste that no one seems to know what to do with.

All countries have a mammoth increasing stocks waiting for a solution.

So I expect that any questions the government will ask will not include anything about waste disposal.
Posted by PeterA, Sunday, 13 September 2009 6:14:08 PM
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