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By Andrew Baker, published 4/9/2009We cannot explain the process of modern science using reason alone as Richard Dawkins would have us believe.
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Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 6:56:08 PM
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OUG...that link you posted was really really good.
http://www.blogcatalog.com/group/popular-science/discuss/entry/dna-proves-the-existence-of-god It actually, step by step debunked your whole argument LOLOL...that DNA shows the existence of god. I'll quote one little bit for you....hopefully you will go back and read the whole thing, might learn something, you never know, and it proves you don't read anything closely, just more cherry picking! "In closing, the larger argument here is a classic example of the god of the gaps, as described in layman's terms in the God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. Since we can not DISPROVE that god designed DNA, it has to be true. Epic fail." Posted by trikkerdee, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 7:58:05 PM
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I have been so impressed by the width and commitment to personal points of view related with so much passion, and also humour sometimes!
I wonder if I am the only one who has noticed that everyone is right in what they say or even if they are not the point has to be made that as finite beings the durability of the truths or views are limited by the death of all of us.So, how important are these differences. The point I wish to make is that might it not be that what there is is what it is but not all that is. There is or must be a transcending truth that absorbs everything without in any way being diminished or enhanced by it. Truth keeps evolving; has always been ever since the first arboreal ancestor left the forests for the savannah grasslands. How had hydrogen, the simplest of elements, evolved into such creatures able to contemplate creatures such as ourselves?. Then through the ages we arrive at where we are. Fourteen billion years ago there was nothing and now all this,you and I, and in the near future there will be neither you nor I and in fact there will be end-time when the entire planetary system implodes into cosmic dust. It doesnt end there. matter is neither created nor destroyed and consciousnness may have its own and undiscovered own indestructibility. So then it goes on again and again. I believe that process theology is the best and most consistent theology that can live with these truths. I am not talking about religion or any theistic god. I believe that what passes for god is capable of being seen and accepted in a non-personal sense as a secularly derived version. What we think is a physical reality may need to be re-assessed. socratease Posted by socratease, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 8:52:00 PM
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re read the statement tricker<<...the larger argument here is a classic example..of..'the god'..of the gaps,>>..it might be a god of the gaps...but even if gods..were still talking about god..lol
<<as described in layman's terms>>..LAYMAN..get it?..ie..a religious novice..as revealed..<<in the/God..Delusion..by Richard Dawkins>>... how would you feel gabby..if i told you to read 600 pages of bullshitt...nearly equal to two new testiments..[or one old testiment..in every line him..telling you smuggly...he got my cash..to call me an idiot...STOP HIDING BEHIND YOUR FAULSE dorky-GOD if you cant explain..without telling me to read his bull..dont bother matey..put your own statements.. state things in YOUR OWN WORDS.. the reason the genes resistant..to roundup..are transphering is because they use a virus..from plants... thus naturally..the plants that get the bad gmo/on virus..absorb the gene...yet..the plant phenotypically..is still egsactly the same..as the others..no pheno-typical evolution you breed..blooming yabbies..[i had hoped..you were conversant with breeding/terminology..but clearly your hit and miss..[a yabby raiser...not a breeder]..google genotype/phenotype..get educated son the fittest survive...now...but you watch..re read my previous post..watch what happens down the line...noting..gm corn/gm potatoes is making beasts infertile..[allready].. yeah..im concerned[about gmo]..that is some satanist/eugenicyst/capitalist plot,..to mutate us and our plants..[us via gmo vacine..for the spanish/bird/pig-hy-bred..as well as our food.. but recall santo's[mon-satano]..its not as if they kept it secret...but the thing is the virus..isnt evolution..its genomic...the mutations are physiological..not phenotypical..evolving is all about pheno-logy..[pheno-type] look at the damm...vidio...see all the process DORKINS claims by accident[or lol alians...which begs the questions how the alians get it...lol...first make your own life..then speculate.. science has NEVER MADE LIFE MATE...figure it out...all them clever retards..cant do..what god..may have..done by accident gods the dreamer...we are his dream..live with it... i can understand you lot rejecting religion...but how the hell..cant you see gods hand..moving the puppet..its between god and you..and god loves you..dont judge something you never knew Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 8:59:43 PM
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The one under dog is like a stuck record. He never answers questions posed to him, and continually asks the same genus questions in spite of them having been answered many times.
He has yet to provide any reason why we should buy into the fantasy called genesis. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 17 September 2009 8:58:44 AM
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I like many people have been confused about the relationship between spiritualism/religion and science. On the one hand you recognise the logic of science but somewhere deep down you feel there is another dimension to the real answers.
I have found the writings and of Dr Robert Anthony to synchronise the truths for me as no one else has ever been able to. According to Dr Robert Anthony, one of the benefits of understanding the basics of quantum physics is that you can finally see clearly how your thoughts, ideas and beliefs control the outcome of your life. Quantum physics is the study of the building blocks of the universe. Let's use your body as an example. Your body is made up of cells. These cells are made up of molecules, which are made up of atoms, which are in turn made up of sub-atomic particles such as electrons. The study of quantum physics has proven that everything is made up of 'large groups' of sub-atomic particles. Your body, your car, plants, trees, thoughts, light, everything else, including the entire universe are 'concentrations or large groups' of energy or sub-atomic particles. The only difference is in the way these particles are grouped together into building blocks. The sub-atomic particles are energy packets that are sometimes called "quanta". Knowing how they work and knowing how they are drawn together, is the key to knowing how to get what you want in life. Because the law of attraction (how things are or become grouped together) works for everything. Everything in this universe is made up of energy, and these energy packets behave in the most amazing way! The reason they appear as certain things and arrange themselves into an automobile or a table, for example, is due to our individual and collective thoughts. Spirit and Mind shapes this energy into physical form. If you can see what I see, then you will understand the relationship between spirituality and science much more clearly now Posted by jakkelaas, Thursday, 17 September 2009 1:08:27 PM
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Well UOG, in this case, it clearly does not! For of course those
plants resistant to Roundup, now cover tens of millions of acres
around the world, as humans grow ever more of them.
Now we have a little problem lol. That Roundup resistant gene is
now turning up in other species, so slowly but surely all that
human spraying of Roundup will be as effective as peeing in the
breeze, as those individuals which carry the gene, multiply by their
billions! The fittest survive by the benefit of one gene, transferred
by a virus.
Now go and read Dawkin's book and prove him wrong, I dare you.
The fact is that you can't, you haven't even bothered to read the
evidence that he presents, relying on Utube for your information.
UOG, you are free to delude yourself, but you arn't convincing anyone.
Ok, so I concede, it makes you feel good to think that your crap matters :)