R0bert

In my last post I meant to acknowledge your previous supportive comments about not writing me off as one-dimensional. I appreciate them.

pelican

I also meant to say in my last post that, as far as I can recall, none of the visuals in 'The Boy' were posed for the book. They were all drawn from existing cultural sources - i.e. films, paintings etc.

Hooley

If you want to put up mischievous links to my 'usual form', would you also mind tracking down your own link to the post in which you addressed me as 'Ms I want a penis' - or something to that effect. In the interests of balance and all that.

Ta ...

Thanks for providing more information about the book SJF. I will have a look at the book when I get a chance.

You are dead right - it is difficult and unfair to comment in too much detail about something which you have not seen based purely on secondhand information.

I wonder if Houlley has actually read the book?

Ah SJF,

'would you also mind tracking down your own link to the post in which you addressed me as 'Ms I want a penis''

Why would/should I do research to prove your allegations? How Bizarre. I never said anything of the sort. If you're going to twist the context of something at least take the effort to find the quote and pick it out of it's context properly.

pelican,

Of course I haven't read the book. I'm not interested in pictures of young boys. You lot can use all the red herrings you like, the point is about the quote, not the book.

It's instructive that you think, 'well, she must have been making a point'. I'm sure any guy who makes books on the subject of young girls, saying 'a man of taste is a pederast, girls rather than women', wouldn't be given such credit.

Eva Cox would be on the phone to the Telegraph in no time! There'd be articles by Tankard Reist on OLO all about the sexualisation of young women. But when Germaine does it, oh, she must have a good reason.

Houllebecq

‘How Bizarre. I never said anything of the sort.’

This was the actual comment. You were having a bit of fun putting words in my mouth. Admittedly my memory recall was not exact word for word, but the gist is almost identical …

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=9136&page=0#146520

‘I'm sure any guy who makes books on the subject of young girls, saying 'a man of taste is a pederast, girls rather than women', wouldn't be given such credit./ Eva Cox would be on the phone to the Telegraph in no time! There'd be articles by Tankard Reist on OLO all about the sexualisation of young women...’

Yes, indeed there would, but your attempt at moral equivalence does not stack up. Here’s why…

Men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of sexual violence against women, children and men. You can go on and on about how all men are not rapists, but that's an inescapable fact.

In this social context, a woman making a claim that ‘a woman of taste is a pederast, boys rather than men’ is outrageous, indeed offensive, but not a cause for alarm.

However, in that same context, a man simply cannot get away with saying ‘a man of taste is a pederast, girls rather than women’, because it’s too real to be merely outrageous or offensive. Such a statement will rightly be construed as threatening and dangerous.

It’s not fair to men, and I don’t like double standards either. But on some issues, they DO apply.

SJF,

'You were having a bit of fun '
Exactly. And note in the whole post I was having fun at the anti-feminists at the same time. Balance you were saying...

It's a far cry from the vicious spray I highlighted, which contained zero balance.

'not a cause for alarm. '

Yeah it's not alarming when a 40yo woman has sex with her 15yo student. Lucky guy huh? Regardless of how common the desire is acted out, actively promoting the desire for under-age boys is still alarming. There's just no voice of disapproval because society doesn't really see this to be as bad as the reverse situation, and I'm sure crime sentences reflect that.

I've often argued why don't we just be honest about it, and let the age for consent for boys be 13 years old, and 18 years old for girls. I'm sure the only reason it isn't is because what if the 13yo was gay, shock horror. It's not the prevalence of these situations that's the issue, it's the core attitudes to men's and women's sexuality. The older woman with the teen boy is the teacher, the nurturer, giving him something, but the older man with the younger girl is the lecherous abuser, stealing something, even if she chased him relentlessly. Young girls have an 'innocence' to be stolen, young boys are guilty from birth it seems.

'It’s not fair to men, and I don’t like double standards either. But on some issues, they DO apply.'

If an aboriginal is under suspicion for crime, that's offensive. If a Muslim is under suspicion for being a terrorist, that's offensive. If a man is under suspicion for being a rapist, that's sensible and understandable.

On the issue of gender equality, i see many radical feminists demanding equality in numbers of women in government and managerial positions but i never see them demanding that equal numbers of women spend 12 hrs shovelling dross down at the local smelter or any of the many dangerous or filthy jobs many men have to do to support their families. I see them demanding that men do more housework but never demand that women spend more time underneath the car breaking fingernails doing repairs or getting filthy doing an oil change or grease up, or climbing over the roof cleaning out the gutters etc etc etc. I see them demanding more rights and resources for single mothers and the repeal of the 50/50 shared parenting laws brought in by the previous government while at the same time saying most dads are deadbeats and don't do enough for their children and belittling the institution of motherhood and the many decent women who are happy just being mothers and being part of a FAMILY. These people are a cancer in our society and like a cancer will only stop when they have destroyed it. I would strongly suggest that if they genuinely want to do something about the sad plight of women that they go to some of the moslem countries where women are forced to wear burkhas and are stoned to death, sometimes for the slightest infraction, see how they are treated there and then see how well off they really are here. Modern day or third wave feminists are not interested in giving women more rights, they are only interested in stripping men of theirs, little wonder that they are often referred to as feminazis. This post is not aimed at moderate womens rights people who are interested in GENUINE equality.