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Learning to live with climate change will not be enough : Comments

By David Orr, published 19/6/2009

Reducing carbon dioxide emissions now will be easier, cheaper, and more ethical than dealing with runaway climate destabilisation later.

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Charles Dodgson's Alice in Wonderland is a better read.
Posted by Dallas, Friday, 19 June 2009 9:08:40 PM
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Not sure if this thing is working properly, so at the risk of repeating myself here goes again.

Was very interested in this article so much so that I Googled Mr Orr and was stunned to learn that:

"I come from a long line of preachers," he says laughing, tucking into a veggie burger at the Foxgrape. "My daddy was a preacher, I have uncles who are preachers, my grandfather was a preacher . . .

and that he is associated with a Presbyterian College in Ohio.

Well if its not another academic nit wit doing the old godbotherers routine.

This time its Ayatollah Orr thinking he is passing off his brand of environmental extremism as another form of hell fire and damnation to the poor gullible students.

Only in America
Posted by bigmal, Saturday, 20 June 2009 1:06:03 PM
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How intersting, Mr. Orr is a god botherer from a long line of such. I think I might Google some of these authors too before I comment. I wonder what is in it for him?
Posted by RaeBee, Sunday, 21 June 2009 11:25:05 AM
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AGW people need to call for a respite on this subject and reassess their message to people who simply will not buy it . AGW people are unable to sell their Science full stop .

30 years ago people were perplexed when the paint on their Cars , homes etc was going chalky , when Plastic products were getting brittle and breaking up , Skin Cancer more prevalent , Colors in clothing etc normally permanent were now fading ; Science came to the rescue when Chlorinated Fluro Carbons were found to be destroying the Ozone layer the degraded Ozone was now allowing UV Alpha and later UV Beta through the Ozone Layer .

CFC's were used in refrigeration , and Spray Pack Cans eg; Deodorant , Paint , insect repellent etc , I used several hundred tons as Refrigerant . It was supposed to be cut out by 2000 but you can buy Chinese Air-conditioners from the Retailers in AU gassed with R22 a CFC obviously the Govt is not doing what they said the would .

Here the Public responded , got on board , there was no decent ; why because the science overwhelmed , proof was available unlike AGW .
National Geographic had space Photo's of the Ozone Hole that developed over the South Pole .

AGW is like Religion if you don't "believe" your karma will get fried
you will be ostracized and labeled a Skeptic , a Pariah .

AGW in it's current form is unacceptable , there is no Science just Hype and Abuse , so much energy wasted by well Educated People who could make a difference if only they stuck to the Rules of Science .
They have blindly followed a couple of Goons whose Business is HumBug and Persuasion .
To be contd..........
Posted by ShazBaz001, Monday, 22 June 2009 12:50:58 PM
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Cont'd
They have blindly followed a couple of Goons whose Business is HumBug and Persuasion .

If you were to write a list of things to do regarding the health of our Planet it would be quite long , on top of the list would be "Water" millions die for lack of clean water , many die because someone else wants their water , Trees die from lack of water even more trees are going to die as humans pump down aquifers , can we live without Trees are not they our Oxygen Provider as a Bonus they live on CO2 ! Crikey that darn stuff again . Is our favorite Professor from the Illawarra talking up forrest MIS schemes that stretch from Boort to Mildura that are about to be junked ? Surely it must be obvious to all the AGW people that the Hume Reservoir and Eldon are no longer Viable infrastructure even if it does rain , more is needed .
The sea of course is a terrific source of water all we have to do is get the Salt out and of course this is done on a large scale in the Middle East using RO tech but it's too expensive to use for forestry
and agriculture with the exception of some specialist applications where up to 900 Kg of Tomatoes are grown per square meter ; thats fine for that crop however Carrots were grown on a large scale near Swan Hill probably juiced and exported to Israel back not so long ago when water was available from the Hume Weir .
Water will be best desalinated by looking at nature , we all know where rain comes from , we nearly all know how to evaporate sea water and how to or what condensing means , some of us know what Saturated Adiabatic Lapse Rate means etc etc . Given we have an abundance of AWG experts with all that latent knowledge properly directed we could zip up half a dozen Murray Rivers from Melbourne to Perth and beyon
Posted by ShazBaz001, Monday, 22 June 2009 12:53:34 PM
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We can only marvel at the innovative abilities of AGW proponents in regards to transforming the Chicken Little fable into a Gone With the Wind format.

They have also provided practical insight into the almost limitless hubristic psyche of anthropophobic pseudo-intellectuals.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:49:43 AM
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