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Racist Australia : Comments

By Bruce Haigh, published 11/6/2009

Polite and sometimes not-so-polite racism is the underbelly of conservative politics and conservative attitudes.

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Dear Quick response,
Crime is not low among many new migrant groups. The Multicultural industry tries to suppress statistics on migrants crime. I believe it is much higher than for your average Anglo Aussie. There was a recent enquiry into ethnic crime in Australia which came to very few conclusions as stats for different ethnic groups are not collected. One of the proposals of the finding was that stats should be collected for different ethnic groups but this was opposed by the Multicultural lobby as it could promote disharmony( ie they don't want us to find out the truth). Have a read about these recent indian bashings violence. Of 12 taxi Indian drivers assualted recently in Melbourne all indentified their asailants as African. Still we don't hear this, because of the MC lobby trying to hide the truth. Asians are more than 10 time smore likely to be involved in drug crime but we don;t hear about this. All these 3rd world people coming here are bringing their own problems here. All those Indian students are just "studying" so they can then get residency. Immigration has no overall benefit to Australia.
Posted by ozzie, Friday, 12 June 2009 1:36:01 PM
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If Australia is racist it’s because we worship lawyers like little tin Gods,. Australia has a class of home grown terrorists, who are the government of this country. We can talk about Al Qaida, but the real terrorists dress up in black gowns, and put dead sheep on their heads, and instill terror as they run their extortion racket against ordinary Australians.

We have a law against racism. Its Article 26 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It says: All persons are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to the equal protection of the law. In this respect, the law shall prohibit any discrimination and guarantee to all persons equal and effective protection against discrimination on any ground such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

Yet we tolerate a form of terrorism inflicted upon us by point 25 of the population, the lawyers. Everyone fears a court case. We are now terrified of getting involved with the law, because it offers no good outcomes. It is simply an extortion racket, run by lawyers for lawyers, and they are always on the hunt for victims. Because we are a pretty gullible race in itself, victims keep on stepping up to the plate, and if a person protests, he or she is declared a vexatious litigant and excluded from any venue where the matter could be settled.

The word court, was not a bad word. A court was even a place where justice was dispensed, but a Court is a bird of a different color. Racist, discriminatory, snob filled Courts are what we tolerate whether we like it or not in Australia. Go to Court, get costs against you, and even Senator Bob Brown will pay, because he knows they will bankrupt him. .

How long will it be before Australia wakes up to the fact that a lawyers cartel, is worse than any other cartel because we all pay the price for their greed. Wake up Australia, its time to fix the problem
Posted by Peter the Believer, Friday, 12 June 2009 2:24:47 PM
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Hi Quick response,

If the crime of new migrants is so low, why do the Police feel the need to have groups like the Middle Eastern and South East Asian crime squads?
Is it because they are racist. More likely because they are neccessary.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that the prison population is heavily represented by certain immigrant groups.
Can anyone verify this as fact, or is it untrue?

Regarding the actual article, what a load of crap.
As many have said we are more tolerant than most, and the incidents against Indians students while deplorable, are doubtfully racist, and more likely related to living in high crime areas.
Posted by Rechts, Friday, 12 June 2009 4:14:29 PM
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ozbib,
All cultures change with time and I am old enough to have seen a lot of change and that includes some for the better. I can even remember six o'clock closing of pubs and one could not obtain petrol after about 11.00pm. The Greek migrants taking over the milk bars/cafes was a big improvement.

I want to correct you on one thing though. Part aboriginal kids were removed because they were deemed to be at risk, especially the lighter skinned ones. The clan treated them very badly. At that time many anglo babies and kids were also taken and adopted out or put in state instatutions. You can google the parliamentry report of "The Forgotten Australians" if you want details of their treatment.

As I said all cultures change, but what I object to is government imposed change that put the emphasis on foreign cultures at the expense of our culture. Millions of dollars have been wasted on this useless ideology that has only succeeded in dividing the community into groups. Each group has been competing with each other for funds to promote their own foreign culture. Have a look at the annual reports, over the years, and see where the millions have gone, both State and Federal. Centrelink alone produces information in some 16 different languages which cost an enormous ammount.

The changes to our culture should come about by simply the community accepting what they deem to be good and rejecting aspects that are not so good.

I have noticed that those advocates of multiculturalism only see the 'nice' things like food variety, dragon parades, beer festivals and children in colourfull costumes and do not recognise the baggage that comes with many cultures. There are many aspects of some cultures that are alien to us and will remain so.

I disagree that the previous government increased racism. They certainly cut the use of the multicultural term and it is pleasing to see that the present government has not revived it, so far.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 12 June 2009 5:35:21 PM
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Banjo

Tell me Banjo do you believe that Lebanese people have a problem in their DNA, something bad which transfered from generation to generation or somithing happened to them here in Australia?
In Europe Lebanese people have considered as the most modernized arab muslims. Libanese society was the most open and most tolerant society in the middle east. (later Israelis, Palestinians and Syrians divided them)They did not have religious or race conflicts. Many Europeans studied at the American Universtity in Beirute. I have a friend (christian)who finished the American Universtity in Beirute, he never had any problem in Lebanon. If you ask people from other countries about lebanese people you will take the same answer the best of the arab world.
Why these opened mind muslims have problems in Sydney?
They was unlucky! Lebanese young people created a gang! but gangs created and Greeks, Chinese, and vietnamese, and anglo etc. NOT ONLY LEBANESE! then why we are against them and not against the others? BECAUSE THEY DID WHAT THEY DID ON THE WRONG TIME!
It was when muslims (al queda) killed thousands Americans in New York and the hate against muslims and the worries from muslims was on the TOP. It was when Howard turned his arrows against migrants and especialy against Muslims, It was when lebanese gang raped girls. It was when the huge number of migrants in Sydney and Melbourne scared Australian nationalists.
They are not diferent from the other migrants from the other muslims.
If you love Australia let's create an association which will promote the friendchip with lebanese people and try to help them. Let's do something usefull
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Friday, 12 June 2009 8:05:00 PM
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Banjo,

Thank you for a considered reply. I've read the parliamentary discussions, and I have a copy of Bringing Them Home--which you might like to read, if you haven't.

A culture is not whole and indivisible. Opera is part of our culture, for instance. Its traditions are largely European.

Just three out of the 13 Opera Australia productions this year are by British composers. The Governments support this company, and the conservatoria of music which produce most of the singers and instrumentalists. They also foster music in schools, and support specialist music secondary schools. They are seeking in this and other ways to change our culture, by making music more central. In particular, a good deal of effort is going into encouraging boys to develop and maintain a delight in classical and romantic music.

Do you object to this effort? It goes against another bit of our culture, which says that art music is for sissies. Is that any sort of good reason to oppose it? I would not have thought so. Rather, it is to be judged on the merits of the change. If people who scorn music are missing out on something wonderful, then that surely is a reason for change. Where the traditions of music come from is irrelevant.

Similarly with those aspects of other cultures to which you object. What counts is not where they come from, or whether they are alien, but the strength of the argument that shows that they are bad or harmful. As you say, indeed, 'The changes to our culture should come about by simply the community accepting what they deem to be good and rejecting aspects that are not so good'.

So to languages.

Are you wanting to argue that we should not accept immigrants who cannot speak good English when they arrive? ) Should we deny ourselves our third largest source of overseas funds, by no longer accepting foreign students? If so, we could have a debate about that. But while we do accept either group, we create for ourselves an obligation to enable them to participate.
Posted by ozbib, Friday, 12 June 2009 11:28:05 PM
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