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Are Indigenous perpetrators homogeneous? : Comments

By Stephen Hagan, published 4/6/2009

It was never a cultural trait to wilfully violate the innocence of our children or brutalise our women, and it never will be.

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How refreshing to read an article which calls on indigenous people to take responsibility for their own behaviour.
And then along came Whistler,
keeper of the myth of the Noble Savage forever tainted by exposure to the evil European.
You wouldn't be a racist would you Whistler?
Surely the most heinous, and possibly even the majority of, violence committed against children would be by mothers killing their children in their wombs.
Posted by KMB, Friday, 5 June 2009 9:34:48 PM
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Whistler seems to reckon that any violence to women in traditional Aboriginal societies could only have been administered by women. This absurd view would demand that we believe that the violent outcomes of women's business were ten times as damaging as those of men's.

It is a simple fact of history that Whistler's ethnographies are contaminated to the extent their value lies entirely with the prejudice of the observer
Posted by Dan Fitzpatrick, Friday, 5 June 2009 11:09:27 PM
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Dan Fitzpatrick, again, which study or studies are you citing which claim violent outcomes against women were ten times as damaging as those against men.

Please state your source, otherwise it pretty much looks like your nose is growing longer with every contribution you make to this thread.

Banjo, runner, J S Mill and KMB, are you perfectly happy with Stephen's integration solution in which, like modern Australian women, one in two Aboriginal women will be physically assaulted at some point in their lives, one in three will be sexually assaulted, and by the time an Aboriginal girl turns 18 there will be a one in four chance she will have experienced rape or another form of sexual assault?

As has been put in context, men in prison have a one in four chance of being sexually assaulted, suggesting that when it comes to rape, what Stephen and all of you appear to want young Aboriginal women to endure in their everyday lives would for men be considered prison conditions? http://2mf.net/news158.htm

Or would you prefer to eliminate male violence against women and their children altogether with provision for a women's legislature?
Posted by whistler, Saturday, 6 June 2009 5:04:10 AM
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I can only gather by your ignorance Whistler that you are either unable to face the truth that child abuse and violence against woman in aboriginal communites is much higher than in the rest of society or you are simply deceived. No amount of violence against men, women or children is acceptable. No doubt with the increase in porn (pervert industry) sexual violence has and will continue to increase. The only fools who argue against this are the same people who argued that smoking dope was harmless. Countless suicides and mental health issues later does not stop them from burying their heads in the sand.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 6 June 2009 10:35:47 AM
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runner, I have never argued child abuse and violence against woman in communities recovering from genocide is lower than in the rest of society.

I live in one of these communities.

what I argue is that assimilation into the grubby, misogynist, rape-fest comprising modern Australia is not a solution.

the provision of a women's legislature is.
Posted by whistler, Saturday, 6 June 2009 11:52:50 PM
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Stephen

Your candour and courage are to be commended. Sadly, though, none of us is surprised. The entire country has known about what is going on within aboriginal culture for years, but the (now beaten) political correctness kept us all silent co-conspirators.

But even more tragic Stephen, is that you do not even realise that as a matter of fact in 2009, sexual abuse of women and minors IS a, if not THE, defining trait of modern aboriginal culture.

I know of no other race or culture that so vigilantly keeps its own kind away from their homes.

Tragically, you are in denial.
Posted by Jock Walker, Sunday, 7 June 2009 7:03:59 PM
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