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Getting serious about human rights : Comments

By Bruce Haigh and Kellie Tranter, published 3/6/2009

Recent international criticism and local political shenanigans demonstrate that Australians need constitutionally enshrined human rights.

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No Peter, Jesus said that the way and the truth is through "the self", not "my self". He was warning people about authority and the way that it corrupts wisdom. The texts were deliberately mis-interpreted by Constantine's collators.
Poor guy, all these moral ranters saying the complete opposite of what he intended in his name. What part of "Love thy neighbor" is hard to understand? Blaming atheists and secularists as if they were a single church is simply ignorant. Christians are *not* demonstrably better behaved, but they do get aggressive a lot.
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You may be right about the Lawyers though, it is a pretty corrupt legal system that makes little attempt to be a justice system. I'd put it on par with the big churches: thoroughly self serving and frequently spouting uninformed rubbish.
Posted by Ozandy, Thursday, 4 June 2009 9:16:02 AM
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It is good to see someone else make the connection between the legal profession and the Big Christian Churches, like Ozandy has. The reason we have not had the International Covenant on Civil and Policical Rights accepted is that it is in effect a Protestant Christian distillation of the principles of the New Testament and the principles underlying that English Constitution. The monolithic legal profession has gone into the same organizational structure as the Roman Catholic Church, and used its dominance of the Liberal Party, and its significant presence in the ALP to legislate to make membership of that Church structure compulsory, and resistance very expensive.

The is really very little difference between the Holy See in Rome, and the High Court in Australia today. An ordinary Roman Catholic has about as much chance of influencing policy in Rome, as an ordinary Australian has of influencing policy through the High Court. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights would fix this by abolishing discrimination. Prior to the hostile takeover of Australia’s legal system by the Lawyer’s Church, State by State starting in 1927 in SA, by installing Priests as Judges, just like the Church of Rome, The Queen did not discriminate, and was deemed to be present in every court.

If Bruce Haigh wants to call me a liar again, I suggest he looks at the Australia Act 1986, and observes that in S 11 The Australian Courts Act 1828, is preserved. This should ensure that in an Australian court the Queen (God) reigns. It doesn’t because the New State Church, formed out of the alliance between Atheists, Lawyers and Roman Catholics, has installed a Lawyer as State Priest.

I don’t know if any of you have ever tried to argue with a Roman Catholic Priest. As soon as the argument starts to go against him, he will call upon the higher power of your heavenly Father. Taint no different with a Federal Court Judge. They can have a jury trial, in that Court, and the money to pay them is appropriated, but it is against their lawyers religion.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Friday, 5 June 2009 5:32:31 AM
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The law as a religion is not new. The reason JC came and taught the separation of powers, in John 5 Verses 22 and 23, was because the Jews had adopted the law as their religion, and had plenty of law, but not much justice. The reason that the Roman Catholic Church was such a bloody church, was that they had lots of law, but no justice. The reason the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is not accepted by lawyers, is that it would deliver justice, and repeal a whole swath of oppressive State Law, by reference to the Constitution. This would end the exploitation of Australians and the States are probably finished and bankrupt, if the Commonwealth is serious about enforcing what it legislates into law.

Currently a question leveled at a State Lawyer Priest, about State Law, will see the inevitable answer, Parliament has legislated it. The Federal Lawyer Priests who could allow anyone at all to have the legality of a State’s legislation, tried as a criminal would be, will not allow this to happen, so we have billions of dollars raised as revenue illegally. They themselves are criminals, these State Lawyer Priests, but they have become so entrenched in power, that the Commonwealth has not moved against them.

Every State Lawyer Priest employed by the Commonwealth as a Judge, owes his first allegiance to his State Law Society Church. This Law Society Church, and the Bar Association, to which all Barristers must subscribe, at the cost of at least $6000 a year, is living proof of what Jesus taught. Where your treasure is so too is your heart. Being a fees paying member of a black church, to get a return on their investment, they must have Courts. Courts with a capital C are un-Constitutional. Every civil Court in Australia is a Temple to the Law as God. Unless they accept that the Covenant is law, they are not courts of justice.

This is why McClelland has Father Frank Brennan running around saying we have no Covenant. Its against his law as God religion.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Friday, 5 June 2009 6:06:13 AM
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What an extraordinarily ignorant and hateful rant. Who was the idiot Foreign Minister who would appoint such an Australia-Hater as this Bruce Haigh to an ambassadorship!

This article has merely hardened my resolve that we must defeat this Charter/Bill of Rights, and these truly awful people who are running the Yes campaign!
Posted by Jock Walker, Sunday, 7 June 2009 7:23:06 PM
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