C'mon guys/gals, stop ganging up on poor Mem.

Q&A, you never answered my list of questions from 2 or so weeks ago. Any chance now that your back?

Eclipse,

Proving over and over again that CO2 is a greenhouse gas is not the issue. The question is how much difference it will make, and that isn't something scientists agree on.

I watched ABC's Crude - thanks for the link. An interesting show and I can see why you are alarmed, if you accept the doomsday scenarios, but I sure got the sense this was cutting edge hypothesis. I'd like to read more about the causes, in pre-history, of anoxic ocean conditions. The hypothesis presented seemed a little speculative to have too much faith in.

I'll keep an open mind, but I'd like to hear more about the basis for that hypothesis. Any suggested further reading?

Kalin, do you mean the questions here?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=8988#143621

If so, I apologise for my tardiness, I was a little peed-off by some of the comments in this thread.

Here it is boys and girls. Over ten years of cooling in the USA.

Go to: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html

-and just change the “first year to display” as 1997

So from 2009 to 1997 it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 1997 - 2009 Trend = -0.85 degF / Decade

From 1998 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 1998 - 2009 Trend = -2.32 degF / Decade

From 1999 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 1999 - 2009 Trend = -1.85 degF / Decade

From 2000 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2000 - 2009 Trend = -1.73 degF / Decade

From 2001 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2001 - 2009 Trend = -1.51 degF / Decade

From 2002 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2002 - 2009 Trend = -3.57 degF / Decade

From 2003 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2003 - 2009 Trend = -2.61 degF / Decade

From 2004 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2004 - 2009 Trend = -3.79 degF / Decade

From 2005 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2005 - 2009 Trend = -13.63 degF / Decade

From 2006 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2006 - 2009 Trend = -26.24 degF / Decade

From 2007 to now it shows:
January 1901 - 2000 Average = 30.81 degF
January 2007 - 2009 Trend = -2.05 degF / Decade

From 2008 to now it shows: It doesn’t have to show because everyone knows it’s colder this past winter, spring and half of the summer.

Hi Kalin,
Poor MeMemine? He’s a troll!

But I'm impressed that you watched Crude, definitely a non-troll act. Did you watch Parts 1 and 2 as well? Part 2 was great. Saudi Arabia's former head of exploration Husseini warns that the whole western world kept projecting further increases in oil supply and vastly over estimating how much oil there was. The fact that the former head of S.A.'s oil exploration says "There's not as much as you think" *should* have been international front page news.

There simply is no international oil-cop that runs around with a giant dip-stick verifying how much oil is on the books of each OPEC country. The IEA relies on SA’s books, but is not allowed in to verify those books and there was some very disturbing sudden jumps in OPEC’s “paper-barrels” in the late 80’s when production was tied to reserves. So countries that wanted to produce as much as they currently were *had* to increase their oil reserves, whether it was there or not!

The fact that there is no bipartisan oil-cop scares me. The entire western world has pretty much peaked, and with our ever decreasing oil production we rely more and more on countries that treat their oil reserves as State secrets. They won’t let us in to audit their reserves, their only main product in some nations, and yet just look us in the eye and say “Trust me”. Watch 4 Corners for more. This is all the more reason to be on a ‘war-footing’ weaning ourselves off oil.
http://abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20060710/

This link was very interesting about the history of ancient earth’s atmosphere, anoxic oceans and the impacts on the evolution of more complex life.
http://nai.nasa.gov/news_stories/news_detail.cfm?ID=280

I personally wonder whether the continental distribution makes today’s world as prone to jump to that higher greenhouse condition. Remember the “Crude” scenario had shallower oceans, but is not the only global warming dieoff scenario. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event#Sustained_and_significant_global_warming

"Here it is boys and girls. Over ten years of cooling in the USA."

USA eh meme? How parochial but then you've tried to pull that swifty before haven't you?

What's that old adage meme? "Cunning as a sh*#*house rat?!!"

Kalin

I'm still not sure which question/s you were referring to. Does this comment to fungo help?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=9115#145614

I've been trying to go back over our comments history ... I'm getting lost.