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A Maggie Thatcher needed to sort out the mess : Comments

By Paul Kerin, published 12/5/2009

The Rudd Government's early complacency, which soon morphed into panic, will destroy voters' faith in its economic management credentials.

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As one who is regularly criticized for daring to quote from dearest Margarets august library of quotable comments, I feel entitled to suggest anyone who sees the false promises and the grandstanding of the incumbent Australian government is fully entitled to condemn the shallow philosophy and political policy on which we are being lead.

Doubtless had the current difficulties been faced by the current opposition, they would have produced the policies which would deal with the problem but without enslaving our children to fund the debt being produced from this socialist excess

I lived and voted in UK prior and during the Thatcher years. I can talk first hand of the incompetence and abuses of political power by the socialists at the time which ensured the British population elected Margaret Thatcher’s government in a land slide… similar to the one which is about to see the loathsome Gordon Brown kicked out of office.

As to snippets of MT… the whole quote is this
"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

It was true then, it is true now.

And to balance quoting form Margaret…

Comrade Lenin..

“The goal of socialism is communism”
“A lie told often enough becomes the truth”

And MT was instrumental in bringing the inheritors of Lenins house of cards down too… good on the woman.

We need her more than an albino Chinese dental technician look-alike
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 2:51:56 PM
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I find it hard to understand why some posters feel the need to develop and display such passionate hatred for world leaders.

Like Pericles, I too found the Thatcher voice grated. I did not like her patronizing talking down attitude. I also admit to disliking Howard’s brevity and arrogance, Costello’s smirk, G.W. Bushes public blithering, Tony Blair’s schoolboy laughter. Nor do I agree with all their decisions but I do respect them for making and implementing tough, sometimes really tough political decisions.

I also respect the right of their nations to elect them, their authority to make decisions on behalf of their nations whilst in office and the right of each nation to replace them through the ballot box.

I have never felt the need to denigrate, vilify or demonize the leader of someone else’s country nor sections of the media because I disagree with their policies or position.

Mr. Denmore, <<I'm not sure how you construe Rudd's total non-action on carbon trading as "appeasing the Green lobby". As to "socially divisive" handouts, that is a matter of opinion clearly>>.

I made absolutely no reference to the ETS, I was actually thinking of the free pink bat insulation for some. I don’t find that “a matter of opinion”, I find it discriminatory to both non-recipients and people employed in other industries.

But since you mention the ETS, the green lobby has stumbled too far to the left to be appeased by our ETS, Kyoto, the next Kyoto or the Copenhagen gab feast. They are now beyond redemption.

The “Thatcher” era, like so many of those denigrated by some, is not typified by getting it right every time. They are typified by passion, conviction, tough decision making and implementation.

Australians are willing to give Kevin Rudd and the ALP a fair go and I support that, I might disagree and be critical of policies. What really worries me is that seemingly everything proposed is a compromise. No passion, conviction or tough decision making. Worse still is nothing significant has yet been implemented.

There is no Thatcher bite.

Well said Col.
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 3:41:24 PM
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The labor trend,

Promise everything, Deliver nothing, break most promises, splash the cash to buy votes and point to others in worse situations who are spending the same to get out of a dire situation which we don't share.

I am not happy at Krudd borrowing $60 000 on my behalf and spending it on his toys.

We don't need Thatcher, we need a firing squad.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 4:15:00 PM
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I cannot think of a worse example than Maggie Thatcher to “sort out the mess we are in”.
She was the instigator of the so-called hands off government approach with a deregulate and sell off everything as touted by the Chicago school and originally put forward by Hayek.
Market forces will supposedly run the economy and stabilize it. A fine idea, but for corporations.
Their sole purpose is to squeeze the last drop of profit out of any business with no morals or accountability.
They have used their immense financial power to buy politicians and now virtually run the world through servile governments whose only ambition is to be re-elected and to hang on to power.
It will make no difference if the Liberals win the next election, it will only mean more of the same under a different label.
What is needed is a new type of party that has not been bought by big business and has the integrity to carry out real reforms.

Unfortunately it will not happen under the present system.
The only way that change could be effected is to change the constitution and bring in a Swiss style referendum government.
Then we could not be just taken into an illegal war, big coal could be held accountable for the pollution they cause and made to pay for it instead of being subsidized for it.
The oil and gas industry could be nationalized to stop our gas being exported for worthless dollars and saved for the day when we will need it desperately for our own public transport.
Money could be diverted to designing and building genuine alternative power sources instead of watching them depart for foreign parts due to lack of support.
Money could be spent to provide rainwater tanks on every house to provide a solution to the drought and provide employment for the steel industry, plus installation.
Can anyone see a liberal or labour government doing any of this?
Or Maggie Thatcher?
Posted by sarnian, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 4:51:40 PM
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Oh my! Mr Kerin, what a sense of humour you have. I admire that in a man. I do. Honestly.

Can we all play this game?

Well!!: I nominate Adolf Hitler as head of the Jewish Orphans League.

(It is unnecessary to elaborate on matters Thatcher. Thank-you!: Mr Denmore/GYM-FISH/Chris Lewis-agreed!/sarnian. THAT'S why it is unnecessary).
Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 5:55:29 PM
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For the truth about Margaret Thatcher why not Google: The First Post Neil Clark Dont Believe the Myth Margaret Thatcher Ruined Egalitarian
Posted by Ho Hum, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 7:19:12 PM
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