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Disrobing the Aboriginal industry : Comments

By Joseph Quesnel, published 4/3/2009

Book review: the controversial new book from Widdowson and Howard ‘Disrobing the Aboriginal Industry’ offers a new perspective, candour and honesty.

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Dear Whistler
"Absent a framework of women's and men's business, all indigenous self-reliance does is mirror the inequity of the introduced.
The solution is to eliminate social dysfunction altogether with provision for governance comprising agreement between women's and men's legislatures in both introduced and indigenous communities."
This is is getting sillier everyday.
Blair Bartholomew
Posted by blairbar, Monday, 9 March 2009 1:04:26 PM
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Blairbar,

Yes, it's similar to a reactionary theory of Arendt Lijphart called 'consociationalism', which he tried to get applied in Apartheid South Africa (and elsewhere, Belgium and Palestine, for example), in which the different ethnic groups would each have their 'own' legislatures, vote for their 'own' representatives, and thereby maintain an unust system.

It also has similarities to the feudal system in Ottoman Turkey called milet, or milayet, whereby each subject 'group' in the Empire would be supervised by its own elites, under its own rules.

There's not much new under the sun. But Whistler's notions are about as loopy as it gets. So far. How on Earth he or she imagines that such backward ideas are Left-wing beats me.
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 10:51:30 AM
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women and men are not ethnic groups, they comprise ethnic groups.
neither is government by agreement between women's and men's legislatures supervision by elites.
moreover, neither, in my view, would an overwhelming majority of Australians consider the provision of equity in the form of smart government at a Referndum, silly, loopy or otherwise objectionable.
Posted by whistler, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:41:35 PM
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For God's sake, Whistler, don't you understand that anything which divides the people is eventually bound to favour rule by agreement betweent 'their' elites ?
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 1:06:12 PM
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women and men don't divide the people, they comprise the people, the distinction is inclusive.

democracy reconciles elites, smart democracy reconciles women's and men's elites.

religious pluralism in the feudal system of Ottoman Turkey was neither smart, inclusive nor democratic.

Australia's dumb democracy mandates men as elite with women under perpetual male supervision.
Posted by whistler, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:01:10 PM
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Aboriginal, Indigenous, Native, Aryan, Jewish, Arab, groups are busy, why not Celts, Nazis, Neanderthals...

All around our world people from various sub-groups are busily creating their own worldwide networks to address issues they purport to commonly face.

BTW issues are pretty much the same, past losses - real and/or imagined.

The UN defines "racial discrimination" as relating to “any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin”.

However then for political expediency the UN went of and produced all their BUTs.

These BUTs are where core definition of racism is NOT to apply, where exemptions to granted, so that governments, organisations, and individuals, all around the world can redefine their definitions of racism so as to exempt, to ignore, all those actions they seek do which conflicts with the original and widely supported definition.

Discriminate by race, to compensate for past racial discrimination ? ? ?

Simple solution is dump all the exemptions.

Compensate for past injustice, does not require permit the crimes to continue.

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Posted by polpak, Thursday, 12 March 2009 3:25:48 PM
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