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After the Apology: still keeping our distance : Comments

By Maggie Walter, published 26/2/2009

Australians know too few Aborigines and too little about them.

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Dear Billya,
I have never found an answer in gaining knowledge of the problem. The solution lies within the individual. We all have inherited attitudes that continue to rule our lives and until we get out of the Racist Paradign and think diferently nothing changes.
It is natural for a dingo to kill fowls . If You rear a dingo pup from a very young age in a domestic situation he will still kill for that is his nature it doesn't change because you will it to.
The only answer is a heart transplant.
Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 4:58:15 PM
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Oh dear, I had no idea the topic became of a dingo and fowl. It clearly is correct to state that we STILL have all these problems due to these "experts" who think they are right and know the answer, its been well over twenty years and they still don’t have it right - blame the experts, not the individual - they are the victims here and I am sure they get sick of been TOLD all the time by these people who think they know what’s best for them and they implement these policies etc to benefit them - YEAH RIGHT more like control them. It’s alright to sit back and say things or say "hey, I know an Aboriginal, but are you one? It’s so frustrating that they are then given the ability to talk for them or make judgement - how critical.
Posted by Billya, Monday, 30 March 2009 10:32:18 AM
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Billya, aboriginal activists have trumpeted about aboriginals speaking out for themselves for years. They have that option open to them now and have had it for years. The problem is that too many of the aboriginal activists themselves have abused their priviliges and the people they speak for! Let's not kid ourselves, there are good and bad in every situation and race...let's work to expose both the good and the bad so that a positive outcome is achieved. Richie is right and he's living the success of his words...you might like to try his suggestions and find some peace in your own life?

An angry and distorted attitude towards “whites” in general is as racist as anyone who says generalised comments about ALL “blacks” as if one size fits all.
I have black friends who are victimised by their own families and other blacks because they argue that holding down a job is too “white”. Do you, like these blacks, attack blacks who want to be educated and achieve alongside fellow blacks and whites and make a contribution to the society that feeds and sustains them?
If so, you become the problem, not the solution. You become the racist, not those you are angry at – just for the colour of their skin.

My neighbour's son is the only one working in his entire extended family...NONE of them hold down any work, most are involved with drugs, petrol sniffing, alcohol abuse and all are on welfare with little or no hope of a change. He comes home once a year to see his mother and has told me he can't come more often or live here or he'd be caught up in all the abuse and violence himself. He loves his work and fits in with his black and white workmates. He is ostracised from his own family because he works and stays 'clean'.

I wonder if you'd argue that he has turned his back on them or they've turned their backs on him a long time ago?
Posted by Meg1, Monday, 30 March 2009 12:23:46 PM
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Thank you Meg1 for your comments, but you can’t speak for Aboriginal activists. Secondly, if you had a government who would support these activists, Aboriginal people will actually get some where. Thirdly I don’t need you to tell me how I am to live my life. And, before you say I maybe the problem, why don’t you look at yourself in the mirror, just because you have "black friends" doesn’t mean you know everything or know the Aboriginal population - shame on you. But it is a step towards reconciliation with breaking cultural barriers and stereotypes, congratulations.
Posted by Billya, Monday, 30 March 2009 1:04:12 PM
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'you can’t speak for Aboriginal activists'
I wasn't speaking FOR them Billya, just their documented abuses of fellow blacks. There aren't too many of them who've used the aboriginal 'industry cash cow' to achieve anything for other blacks. They seem to end up with all the money and the benefits themselves, while the majority end up worse off than when they started their 'represntation' of the cause.

'if you had a government who would support these activists, Aboriginal people will actually get some where'

Not on the evidence of their past performance they won't. You could try Richie's advice and look higher.

'Thirdly I don’t need you to tell me how I am to live my life'

Your anger at all things 'white' needs to be resolved and won't be by perpetrating the myth that these activists have been looking after your interests in the past. I have not told you how to live your life but have wondered if you've been one of those telling other blacks how to live theirs and prevent them from working or keeping a clean house since you have espoused angry and bitter attitudes to ALL 'whites' without any basis being given.

All whites aren't good or bad, neither are ALL blacks...to argue that attitude would be bigoted racism.

'before you say I maybe the problem'
'you've jumped the gun there and maybe feel that you have to own some of the problem, that's a start...now comes the hard part, admitting that change has to happen from inside everyone of us. We've all got to let go of the prejudices and anger and hatred or NOTHING will change.

I don't pretend to 'know everything or know the Aboriginal population' 'shame on you' for suggesting I have. I do see the damage that is being done to people I care about and I see the same old stereotypes causing the same results...you've espoused many of them in these posts.

The change won't come from 'activists' it has to come from both sides of any problem and it has to come from within...that's the reality!
Posted by Meg1, Monday, 30 March 2009 1:33:56 PM
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How nice of you, painting them (activists) all with the same brush.

Can you then understand why some Aboriginal people feel the way they do with government in general?

And thank you for "seeing" the problems Aboriginal people face, its quite fortunate you did not have to experience what they went through and for some who are still experiencing it. We have been seeing these problems for quite some time now...have we?

At the end of day it’s ACTION and as you stated - from both sides
Congratulations
Posted by Billya, Thursday, 2 April 2009 1:00:26 PM
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