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By Barbara Biggs, published 24/2/2009How many more children need to die before the Federal Government acts to protect kids?
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Posted by mog, Saturday, 7 March 2009 5:09:48 PM
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" Your persistent attacks on women make it unsurprising that your ex found you abusive."
I knew it was only a matter of time till one of you went there. Yes, antiseptic, it is no wonder your wife found you "abusive" w/ your persistent "attacks". You have just validated every point made in this thread about false allegations of "abuse". When words like abuse, attack, violence and rape start to be used in contexts like these it is clear we have abandoned any vestige of rationality or reason. You lament the courts and social services lack of response amidst allegations of domestic violence and abuse while robbing those very words of any meaning whatsoever. Your inability to differentiate actual abuse from a mildly heated debate on an internet forum makes it all the more likely that the woman who is actually abused is not believed. After all was it really abuse or did a debate just get to the point where the woman had no credible arguments left. Your bandying about of these terms every time you can't sustain an argument on its own merits, endangers women and children every bit as much as the actual abusers. On the subject of how trivially SOME women take accusations of abuse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgxwPU0W-Wg Posted by LeftBehindFather, Saturday, 7 March 2009 6:46:57 PM
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Adele Horin managed to write a article on child abuse without managing to make it gender specific.
Reading her article reminded me about the boy found in a suitcase, floating a lake. He was murdered by a parent during a access visit. Leftbehindfather, I read the work of a psychologist who wrote about how some people hang onto their opinions so strongly and tie their opinions to their sense of self, that they feel that if a person disagress with their opinion, then that person who disagrees with their opinion, does not like them. They feel/believe that in order to be validated as a person, their opinions must also be validated. Invalidating or not agreeing with their opinion is seen by these type of people, as a personal attack.(Misogyny) So because some of us blokes are challanging the opinions (rigid) of feisty feminists, they then call us mysogynists, when all we are doing is not agreeing with them. Plus labelling someone as being a mysogynist, is usually just an attempt at trying to make the other person feel guilty, or bad about themselves. thus stopping any further debate or discussion. I think if mogg's ever bothered to read Spreading Misandry. Nah that is a bad idea, Some people just cant cope with reading material that might just be a little challanging. Posted by JamesH, Saturday, 7 March 2009 11:51:38 PM
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Babara, in todays paper is a story about Jarrad Roberts who died from an ear infection.
Jarrad was in the care of his mother. Where is your outrage about this childs totally preventable death? Posted by JamesH, Thursday, 19 March 2009 4:16:18 AM
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Clearly a mother would never allow her child to get an ear infection that progressed into a fatal condition. Women are always rational and have children's best interests at heart. I have not read the article, but I do not need to. There must have been abuse on the part of the biological father.
SJF said "Who would want to spend their lives on the run and face extradition and criminal prosecution if caught, IF they didn’t have good reason?" ie the mother MUST have had a good reason to let her child die of an easily preventable complication, and that good reason MUST have been child abuse/domestic violence. QED Posted by LeftBehindFather, Thursday, 19 March 2009 4:49:28 AM
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In SA in the last 3 weeks a man shot his ex dead - shot police and was shot dead. A man stabbed his ex wife and 2 year old son dead in front of his other children. A man stabbed his current partner and 2 week old daughter to critically injure them then stabbed himself and his 2 year old son to death.
So much for the numbers of dead at whose hands. Clearly the mother of the ten year old was seriously neglecting her children. What a shame the family never got the help the boy needed. Posted by mog, Thursday, 19 March 2009 12:35:33 PM
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You are right that DOCS needs many more resources and I do advocate for this often. One state recently reported that 28% of family court reports were ever investigated. There weren't enough workers to even look at the other cases. Children are routinely failed by state child protection and routinely failed by family law. So they are killed, injured abused and damaged while adults like septic can only ever do the 'what about me' wail, and the 'you women are all out to be mean to men' bawl so all the focus is on bleating moaning males while children's safety is reduced to the 'all women lie' mantra. Get over yourself septic. Your persistent attacks on women make it unsurprising that your ex found you abusive.