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Why a Rudd-led Labor has surrendered to big business : Comments

By Marko Beljac, published 16/1/2009

Rudd and Gillard have learnt the lesson, taught by 'the Latham debacle' - they must earn and keep the 'trust' of corporate Australia.

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*Vested-interest, profit-driven, continuous-growth-at-all-costs big-business forces are all-pervasive.*

Ah Ludwig, but like many, you ignore the fact as to who drives
big business, ie CEOs of large companies. Just examine the
share registery of the top 20 shareholders. Most are Super Funds,
run by managers who want to impress their members with great
returns and those members are in fact Australian workers.

So the wheel comes full circle.

Why do these managers push so hard? Quite simple, they want
to do better then the next guy with whom they are compared,
so that they can ask for a pay rise, if they get results.

Human nature, at its very basic!
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 16 January 2009 10:45:14 PM
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Labor under Rudd is no better nor worse than the Liberals. True he rushed off and signed Kyoto and said sorry to the "stolen generation" - token gestures that briefly, oh so briefly, raised the hopes of environmentalists and the left for a shift from this destructive big business as usual path Australia continues to follow and for which future generations will pay dearly.

I for one will never again vote for either party and have to debate long and hard with myself as to which of the two to put ahead of the other on my ballot paper. I think I will just toss a coin next time round.

Another dilemma that needs to be faced by those who genuinely see the need for a radical change in direction in our society is what to do with our superfund and other savings. I took the the first steps yesterday (prompted by the Wilderness Society) to withdraw from any fund portfolios that cannot guarantee they don't invest my money in Gunns Ltd (as an example of an environmentally destructive enterprise).

SOMETHING has to be done to combat the "growth fundimentalists" that have taken over our society and cast a heavy cloud over the future.
Posted by kulu, Saturday, 17 January 2009 3:49:43 AM
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When Mark Latham bled fourteen percentage points from the polls in 2004, in seven weeks, it was not because he upset big business. The people he really upset were the 65% of real fair dinkum Australians who claim to be Christian. When he came out and claimed to be an atheist, seven weeks before the election, he handed Howard and the Liberals an opportunity to exploit the majority view.

Rudd worked this out immediately after the election, and a comment on this site, dated 13 December 2004, expressed his views. 23 seats shifted camp from the coalition to Labor, due in no small part to Kevin’s confession of Christianity. On the 7th August 2006, KR addressed over 500 Christians at Parliament House, and told them the Labor Party had Christian roots and could be trusted.

His podcast with John Howard, explaining his Christian credentials, was taken by 200,000 people who went to their local church, to hear them both. He argues that the Conservatives have a rusted on 40% and Labor has a rusted on 40% but it is the little people in the middle who go to church, who elect governments.

Australia is controlled by lawyers. Lawyers are members of a secret cult of control freaks whose philosophy is to regulate and control everything, from cradle to grave. They may go to church but they are hypocrites, because they have fully integrated their power and abused their membership of all Parliaments.

The only monopoly that ASIC has not set out to smash is the legal monopoly. Since 1952, when Menzies organized the High Court to make Rules excluding free and unimpeded access to the Federal Supreme Court Australia has not been a democracy.

By allowing lawyers committees to write Rules of Court, just as Mohammed wrote Rules of Behavior Parliament has abdicated its responsibility. Instead of the Holy Bible we have the State Red Book, or the Federal Black Books, controlling our lives. Nine divisive Churches devised by lawyers, of which we must be members. Kevin Rudd has promised to restore the Commonwealth which means Republic.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 17 January 2009 5:38:57 AM
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“..you ignore the fact as to who drives big business…”

Yabby, I don’t think I’m ignoring anything.

“Human nature, at its very basic!”

Yep.

Governments are supposed to mitigate that constant push for expansion from the business sector where it is a threat to our future wellbeing. In fact, this is one of their most important roles. We’ve reached the point where it is very much a threat to our future.

So it begs the question; could any PM or government escape the ‘growth trap’ and survive the following election?

This really is one of the key questions of our times, as we so desperately need to stop rushing towards the cliff and to embrace a paradigm of sustainability.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 17 January 2009 6:49:32 AM
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The so called big business is nothing other than the typical Bureaucratic run and operated systems, they are but seemingly extensions of the Government bureaucracy , and the same intellectual incapability to function in any manor other than the to ensure their salaries and bonuses exceed their capability.
Like Government, Big Looter industries have the peasants to rob and milk dry. And when you realise that Government is the + 30 percent shareholder in the Loot gotten, that’s why the bureaucratic System Side with the Bigger Looting conspiracy.
You have to remember that there is Three tiers of Statutory thievery at work here ; Local State and Federal ; and the golden milk is running out.
The bigger the Sack of gold, the bigger distribution to fund the Government Bureaucrats; Liberal and Labour;

Perhaps a little unorthodox in an explanation , but when the real achievers and those with ability are substituted with useless idiots and morons , what more do you expect.
Posted by All-, Saturday, 17 January 2009 8:04:01 AM
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Thanks for that article ,Marko.Biff was a breath of fresh air but had no chance,as you explain.
It has been obvious to me for years that our 2 party system is just plain broke and is leading Australia deeper and deeper into a pit.

The only political hope is the Greens but short of a major popular movement for radical change they have no chance of having any significant influence under the current electoral system in the House of Representatives.The states,except Tasmania and the ACT,are in the same boat.

It is possible that only an economic crash and burn will wake enough of the sleepers to start a reform process.I'm convinced that nothing of any positive consequence will come from the current hierachy.
Posted by Manorina, Saturday, 17 January 2009 8:10:19 AM
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