If some members of the Basra police force were in sympathy with forces opposed to the British, as Paul alleges, then I would have thought that that would have been cause to re-examine the question of whether the invasion and military occupation of Iraq was justified.

Given what Naomi Klein has chronicled in "The Shock Doctrine" of the suppression of democracy following the invasion in order to allow Bush's crony capitalists to ransack the wealth of Iraq and impoverish Iraqis (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6974#108120), I think hostility to the occupation forces, even amongst the police, would have been understandable.

Instead, Paul has tried to imply that, because of this alleged hostility, those police must have been automatically in the wrong.

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Paul cites British undercover work in the IRA as a supposed success and justification for other 'undercover' work in Iraq, but ignores the fact that those undercover operatives participated in acts of terrorism and murder under orders from their handlers, ostensibly in order to preserve their cover.

The fact that the British failed to act upon warnings ("State-Sponsored Terror: British and American Black Ops in Iraq" at http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9447) by an undercover operative of the 1998 Omagh atrocity apparently carried out by an SAS double agent ("British Terrorism in Iraq" at http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=1024) in which 29 people died should surely cause any critical-minded person to question what the precise purpose of the British undercover work in the IRA was.

One has to seriously ask whether IRA acts of terror, far from, in any way, helping the oppressed of Ireland or the UK, actually, instead, served the interests of British wealthy elite.

In the case of Iraq the political value to the occupation forces of terrorism ostensibly committed by Sunnis against Shiites and vice versa is obvious. As I have pointed out, Paul, himself, has often made the claim that more Iraqis have died at the hands of other Iraqis in order to divert attention away from crimes committed by the occupation forces.

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Looks as if I have lost whatever it was I meant to add to the above post.

I would have considered making use of another account to post the rest of the above, but, as many here may appreciate, there are pedants on OLO who delight in using apparent technical breaches of OLO rules to sidetrack the discussion.

If what I intended to write comes back to me I will post it.

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So, what's happened to Paul? He has suddenly gone quite on all the forums on which I have been arguing with him.

Not that I want him to return, but as he has doggedly abused his OLO account to obfuscate the issues on a number of forums for many months and caused me to spend huge amount of my time trying to counter his sophistry, not to mention insults and personal attacks, I think I am now entitled to point out that either he has gone away or he is hiding.

Dagget,

You are an UTTER MORON.

I have embarrassed you a number of times by highlighting your lack of basic knowledge of the subjects you hold such strident opinions about(actually I'm not sure regurgitating Naomi Klein ad Nauseam counts as having an opinion, but we'll run with it.) So I am not sure why you insist on bringing my name into every rant you post. I suppose I should be flattered that you see me as such an expert that you feel unable to discuss the subject without referring to me.

I started a new job and i haven't had access to the internet for two weeks. So HIDING? From YOU. You NUTTER. As if.

Don't worry, when I get my phone line installed I'll be back to exposing your increasingly insane global conspiracies theories, as the rubbish that they are.

ROFLMAO at this gem.

you say >> he has doggedly abused his OLO account to obfuscate the issues on a number of forums for many months and caused me to spend huge amount of my time trying to counter his sophistry, not to mention insults and personal attacks"

After months of attempting to point out the insanity of your claims I find this surprising. And coming from someone who has ACTUALLY abused his OLO account a number of times, lying to many people in the process, you clearly don't understand the meaning of the word HYPOCRICY.

Of the two of us, only one has deliberately lied to the contributors of OLO. And its not me.

Hard as this might be to believe for a nutjob such as yourself, I actually don't believe that the US was involved in the attacks on 911. I'm not trying to obfuscate anything, I'm telling the truth as i see it. That you believe this to be obfuscation says more about your below average comprehension skills and twisted mindset, than it does about me.

Thank you, Paul.

I think your above post sheds just about as much light on any of the topics at hand as any of your other numerous posts to this and to other forums.

It seems as if Paul has not been able to live up to his promise to get back to "exposing (my) increasingly insane global conspiracies theories, as the rubbish that they are."

Those hoping to finally learn why the September 11 attacks always happened exactly the way George Bush always told us they did may have been disappointed with Paul's latest effort at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2166&page=47#56147

"... You are a nutjob of the highest order. Its a pity it took me so long to realize that you are an entirely irrational person.

"You keep believing everyone is out to get you. Won't be long before you start introducing discussions about alien abductions and poltergeists."

Paul's been saying that for four and a half months now, but I can assure everyone that after all this time I didn't then, and still don't believe in alien abductions, nor do I believe in poltergeists.

Perhaps some of the other 9/11 Truth deniers who have repeatedly assured us that they have read the material and understand why the case of The 9/11 Truth Movement is hogwash could take up the baton on Paul's behalf, especially given the way he has explained to them with such clarity all the issues.