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Coalition killing the Nats : Comments

By Peter Van Onselen, published 24/10/2008

The Nationals are bleeding to death and it is hard to know how to stop it.

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Very unfortunately the farming community is their own worst enemy. To protect themselves( as mainly independent farmers) against global cartel commodity rip offs, almost endemic previous to WW2, they formed their own particular political party to further represent their interests. Results were impressive: Wheat boards, Potato Boards, Grain pools,Wool boards, Dairy boards, Meat boards,Onion boards,Fuel & fertilzer subsidies,the list is almost endless. All with the express purpose of taking the financial risk out of farming with guaranteed prices, markets, & profits. A socialist utopia. Then,they decided to completely throw their lot in with the Liberal Party & became a rump of the Liberal Party. So began the slow inevetible decline of their dedicated farming interest party. Their only hope of survival is to follow the example set by Brendan Grylls in Western Australia & sit on the cross benches of Parliaments both State & Federal. Their policies in recent years have been to blindly follow their political masters(the Liberal Party)which policy can only lead to their complete ingestion into the Liberal Party. It is quite obvious that the Liberal Party intend eventually to swallow up the few Nationals left in Parliaments & probably the sooner the better.
Posted by Jack from Bicton, Friday, 24 October 2008 3:45:14 PM
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For the two respondents to my country grizzle, must say I agree mostly with you both - which goes to prove that a dinkum bush party accepting a city-based party title was sure to have problems.

Personally with my grandkids now running our farm business, and unlike me both having had college educations, it seems they have to be almost shunted in to vote even for the Nationals.

Which indeed makes me proud that I was always against discarding the old Country Party monicka, which Black Jack McKewan carried aloft so well.

The real problem for WA country-based people at present, of course, is that with more and more lack of bush voting power, we need fighters like young Brendan Gryll more than ever.

Finally, it does not say much for city-country respect when we have Barnett trying to forego the monetary arrangement with Gryll that enabled Barnett to become WA premier.

Cheers, BB, WA.
Posted by bushbred, Friday, 24 October 2008 5:34:58 PM
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Barney Joyce, as a young potentially greater Australian leader, I am disappointed in you.

I believe you are leading rural Australia down a narrow drovers-fence closed, backwards.

Barney you are navel gazing. The barb-wire is rusty and brittle. Making a national policy advantage with this line - disuseful and difficult.

Your immediate unwise men are putting a most negative demand on their own parties politics. They misuse true depth - belly up on honesty and or wisdom.

Like you, I am an independent thinker, and I too have principal. We/I respected you last year.... we recognized potential inside you.

Today however, I have had about enough. How can people like us in rural regions ever support the ignorance and mental violence your inner party obsesses.

Is it you Barney, or is it the oats?

What I have respected about you previous was your intelligence. The way you have past contemplated - reflected your drive to do the right thing. It was refreshing.

Your recent comments... the reference to the $10.4 million injection and (china) as Australians buy their christmas presents. Frankly (30 years ago) it was a halfway smart comment .... today however, it requires a "whole" math equation, not one left as presently uncompleted.

I hope you grow Barney. Without Tim Fischer at the helm... we need someone with depth to take his place. Tim made real ground for Australia - across the Pacific and Asia, adding value to both exchange markets with a transitional gain.

www.miacat.com
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Posted by miacat, Saturday, 25 October 2008 8:14:36 PM
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"The Nationals are bleeding to death and it is hard to know how to stop it."

Yes, what a shame. I thought the farmers shot beasts who couldn't last the distance... is that apporpriate maybe?

It is a larf what's going on in Qld. The Qld Nats are going to evaporate as an identity here as the Libs impose their relationship with Canberra and 'new blood' from One Nation and all the other extremist groups flood in to the LNP.

The old agrarian socialism has gone anyway, so there really is no room for the Nats at any level of government these days.

The days of having 'decent fellows' with a few yaers of farmwork behind them wafting into parliaments has gone anyway, and the Nats aren't exactly overflowing with neurons are they?

There is something always a bit 'dodgy' about farmers anyway... they support 'free trade' but always want a free loan, a subsidy, a protection on prices, a place on the dole queue while keeping their income making small business going at the same time, while their Party hoes into dole bludgers and 'single mums'... most of whom seem to fill our nations country towns from my experience oop norf.

You don't ever see an ownerdriver of an interstate jigger running his/her business and getting a dole cheque at the same time because the free market truckies support isn't going their way do you? And they 'love' their Kennies as much as farmers 'love' their land.

Let's just say goodbye...and good riddance to the hayseeds of the bush... they charted their own demise by clinging to power with Howard and never saying boo! to the Liberals
Posted by The Blue Cross, Monday, 27 October 2008 10:09:50 AM
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Hey Blue Cross, as old as I am as a WW2 veteran, reckon as a former bush rifleman as well as having marksman in my military paybook, could still knock you off at 300 yards no trouble.

Just be careful what you say, because there is still a few of us around who detest the decision that made us part of the Liberal Party as proven by my earlier missile in another thread.

In fact, the old Country Party was actually started by Victorian dairy farmers who were probably former miners like many of the wheat cockies in the Dalwallinu district who formed what they called the Cockies Union, most of them also former miners with experience of the dire necessity for agressive unionism to combat the business mafia.

It was thus that bush unionism was able to have Pollard elected as Aussie PM, being how bush unionism had Australian agriculture looked after for a long period, in some ways, both the US and the EU now having their farming subsidised for the same reasons.

Have Fun,
cheers, BB, WA
Posted by bushbred, Monday, 27 October 2008 1:18:49 PM
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The Nationals are the heirs to the exploitation and theft of Aboriginal land..

Now the Nationals are the victims of ruthless political machinations which are portents of their demise.

The bible calls this 'reaping' ...what you sow. (in their case, literally)

Just because the wages of sin don't come each thursday week... does not mean they don't ever come.

"You will sow but you will not reap. You will tread the olive but will not anoint yourself with oil; And the grapes, but you will not drink wine." Micah 6:15

8 Woe to you who add house to house
and join field to field
till no space is left
and you live alone in the land.

9 The LORD Almighty has declared in my hearing:
"Surely the great houses will become desolate,
the fine mansions left without occupants. Isaiah 5:8

Super is self destructing....
Shares losing their value....
American housing prices collapsing...

II Chronicles 7:14

"If my people who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways...then will I hear from heaven, and heal their land."

May the Lord open all our hearts to His word.
Posted by Polycarp, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 7:40:02 AM
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