I am more concerned with Muslim Terrorists fire bombing peoples houses in London because their mullahs tell them to because of someone is publishing a book.

as for

"How Ramadan and Eid became sacred Muslim rituals"

I would not give a rats

Australia is not a muslim country and before anyone starts to preach the mantra of Islam, they should first separate their belief from those who act contrary to the acceptance of free speech historically enshrined in Australias values by denouncing the terrorists and their mullahs.

'The first Ramadan and Eid were very significant events that shaped the future of the great Islamic faith. Success in this incredible battle against a much larger opposition gave Muslims tremendous confidence and a feeling that God was on their side.'

I'm not sure how a battle where men kill each other can be linked to the term 'sacred'. Surely, the fact that Islam was born in death and violence affirms the fact that it is NOT sacred - by definition.

A truly sacred ideology would spread without the need for 'the sword', but instead would attact people by a gentle presention of clear and rational truth. Secular Humanism springs to mind.

Pericles....

what you are totally missing.. probably willfully is that this article was written by a Muslim... and it simply outlines the very reasons that I myself am critical of it (Islam).

<<To the article in question here, I have absolutely no opinion, since it does not seem to threaten anyone.>>

I'll guarantee such an honest article scares Fellow Human.. because he is always defending 'peaceful' Islam.. where I am exposing it's violent underbelly.. just as this author has clearly explained.

You might recall that in the "Islam Watch Exposes" thread.. I made statements about the beginnings of Islam. You criticize me.. FH also calls it 'propoganda'... yet here..when a MUSLIM writes the same thing.. *silence*..... where it should be....

"Oh yes.. Polycarp.. now we see exactly what you are driving at because now we hear/read it from a Muslim"

It should be most obvious Pericles that IF the 2 most important rituals in the Islamic calender are celebrations of violence against non Muslims... it goes without saying WHAT the Muslims are in fact celebrating...and..how this will translate into attitudes toward non Muslims.

Well.. it does if psychology has any meaning these days.

All I've said all along is that "Islam" is aggressive and violent by doctrine.

This article supports that contention.
Atheists like Paul L and others can identify this clearly and easily,

but you? errrr.. well u'd make an interesting subject for clinical pshychology for sure, but your criticisms are aimed at both
-the Atheist Paul L and
-the Christian,- me

yet NOT at the Muslim....this author :) most curious indeed.

So let me ask you.. from your reading of this article
1/ Have I misrepresented Islam? If so..how?
2/ Has this author misrepresented Islam?

It is very, very simple, Boaz.

>>but you? errrr.. well u'd make an interesting subject for clinical pshychology for sure, but your criticisms are aimed at both -the Atheist Paul L and -the Christian,- me yet NOT at the Muslim....this author :) most curious indeed.<<

The only reason that I take issue with you, Boaz (and I have lost count of the number of times I have had to explain this to you) is that you do not pass up a single opportunity to foment hatred against Islam and Muslims. You seize upon every little scrap you can find, and tease it out into the Great Conspiracy. If you had your way, every citizen in this country would be baying for the head of every Muslim, courtesy of your constant denigration of them and their religious beliefs.

This article does not articulate a single threat to you, your person, your family, your religion or your country. Yet you couldn't resist the opportunity for a snide remark, together with a suggestion that somehow it proves what you have been saying all along - which, of course, it does no such thing, since is not in any way belligerent.

Nor does it articulate a single threat to me, my person, my family, or my country As a result, I cannot find a single reason to criticise it.

The fact that it is of no interest to me on any other level, either historically or spiritually, only reinforces my indifference.

You clearly feel threatened, Boaz, every time you see or hear a Muslim, or read anything written by a Muslim. You somehow see it as important that you not only share this fear with us, but that you instil it in as many people as you can.

This is particularly evident here, as a) you eventually couldn't refrain from dropping your little dose of poison into the thread, and b) you also felt the need to include me in the discussion.

Sad, really.

yes Pericles..it is very simple, as you say.

I've been saying all along that Islam contains teaching and commands, (not suggestions) to impose it's rule on non Muslims. That is clear from the Quran which means it is not a temporary or occasional thing, but a world view.

The article here clearly demonstrates that Mohammad did exactly as the Quran commanded (which of course he invented for the very purpose of establishing his own personal stamp on history).

So.. we have a number things

1/ The Quran commands
2/ Mohammad did.
3/ Islam is today as it was then, because for it not to be so, would be a denial of both it's holy book and it's founder.
4/ That many, even most nominal Muslims do not seek overtly to establish this rule of Islam is a historical reality at this time.
5/ That there are among them a significant number who do.. is also a present fact of life.
6/ Finally this article shows all of the above.

You are still seeing my position through a very carefully calibrated filter which only allows for the word 'hate' to slip through.
You seem to refuse to accomodate 'information' of a more general nature which is useful to the community in knowing those things which drive Islam historically and now in the form of terrorism.

If you see no threat in the celebration of violent aggression, then I suppose Anzac day means very little to you, as it celebrates the courage of young men sacrificed in war.
When young Aussies remember Australia day..they remember certain things.
I don't see how you cannot be concerned about the celebration of the destruction of the enemies of Islam... as you are one. (by simply not being one)

So long as you are in denial, Boaz, I will be here.

>>I've been saying all along that Islam contains teaching and commands, (not suggestions) to impose it's rule on non Muslims. That is clear from the Quran which means it is not a temporary or occasional thing, but a world view.<<

You have also been "saying all along" that your attacks on Islam are not attacks on Muslims.

How do you reconcile these two positions?

You invariably take great care to tell us that Muslims have no choice, but to follow Islam and be committed to the destruction of non-Muslims...

>>I don't see how you cannot be concerned about the celebration of the destruction of the enemies of Islam... as you are one. (by simply not being one)<<

Yet you also try to deny that these attacks relate to individual Muslims.

You cannot have it both ways, Boaz.

You are a committed rabble-rouser, fostering fear and loathing in your gullible flock.

You cannot hide behind the pretence that you are attacking the message but not the individual, when you spend so much energy on linking the two through the highly selective sound-bites you isolate from their scriptures.

In your quiet and reflective moments, Boaz, if you have any, perhaps you should ask yourself where your fear comes from.

Is it personal, in the sense that you fear for your life in the face of ravening hordes of scimitar-waving Muslims?

Or is it a different form of fear, one that says, in a very quiet voice, hey, maybe I'm wrong to denigrate another religion the way I do.

After all, they at least are believers, and believe in God just the same way as I do.

Not like those horrid atheists.