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Let's look at those 'silly arguments' : Comments

By Ruby Hamad, published 19/9/2008

Ruby Hamad's response to Terpstra's patronising and the written equivalent of a pat on the head.

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part two

9. Palin's Troopergate Scandal: She used her public position to punish her former brother in law. 85% of Alaskans Believe She Lied
Troopergate.
http://newsone.com/elections/article/sarah-palins-troopergate
10. She was against some publications and tried to remove them from the library, one of them received the following awards:
* 1971 Caldecott Honor Book
* Notable Children's Books of 1940--1970 (ALA)
* Best Books of 1970 (SLJ)
* Outstanding Children's Books of 1970 (NYT)
* Best Illustrated Children's Books of 1970 (NYT)
* Children's Books of 1970 (Library of Congress)
* Carey-Thomas Award 1971--Honor Citation
* Brooklyn Art Books for Children 1973, 1975
* Beginner Books.
11. Sara Palin's Shocking Animal Cruelty
If Sarah Palin ran the United States like she has run Alaska, it would indeed be a terrible day for animals
http://www.alternet.org/story/9891/sara_palin%27s_shocking_animal_cruelty/
I supposed Republicans are in very difficult position and they chose as VP a person like Palin.

Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 20 September 2008 6:58:41 PM
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Sarah Palin is a great leader. Greater than Obama. Just look at her resume! Some selective illiterates, however, are pretending to ignore the facts (available online):

Sarah Palin,44, Governor of Alaska: Chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission; Chair of the National Governors Association Natural Resources Committee; Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission; Mayor of Wasilla, AK; President of Alaska Conference of Mayors; Wasilla City Council member.Executive experience: Governor for two years; mayor for 10 years.

Barack Obama, 48, Junior Senator: Illinois state senator; senior law lecturer at University of Chicago Law School; ACORN community organizer. Executive experience: None.

Question: Why does a conservative woman have to work twice as hard as a left-wing man?

See:www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1155/pub_detail.asp
Posted by Ben-Peter, Sunday, 21 September 2008 11:43:12 AM
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Well in this case Ben-Peter she's only got half the nous.
Posted by bennie, Sunday, 21 September 2008 12:16:45 PM
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Goodness me, Paull, thought you had more historical insight than to back Palin.

To me as a historian, Paull, Palin is just the one that'll keep America on the same wrong track ever since it became Pax Americana.

The woman is so similar in style to Georgie Boy Bush, reckon she'd be glad to have Dick Cheney along as well, and even Rumsfeld who managed much of Saddam's lost war against Iran.

As a historian with Honour's in his old age, Paull, and one with Marksman printed in his paybook during WW2, would like to give this huntress lady a test with rifles at three hundred metres - but in any case nothing to do with true historical insight which I would say this lady sadly lacks.

Cheers, BB, Buntine, WA.
Posted by bushbred, Sunday, 21 September 2008 5:14:25 PM
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The balloon deflates

How could a 72-year-old man with bouts of cancer choose someone who appears to be completely unqualified to become president?

Senior Republican Senator and member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,Chuck Hagel has voiced doubts about Sarah Palin's qualifications for the vice-presidency.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7623771.stm

Lyda Green, a Republican and president of the state senate (Alaska) said that "She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?"

Wall Street Journal columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan and former John McCain adviser, Time columnist, and MSNBC contributor Mike Murphy said"they went for this, excuse me, political bullsh#t about narratives. Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and that's not what they're good at, they blow it."

Former Mayor of New York Ed Koch, in 2004 he endorsed George W. Bush. Koch not only endorsed Bush, but campaigned for him in six states including Florida said about Palin ".. when her record is examined, she fails miserably with respect to her views on the domestic issues that are so important to the people of the U.S., and to me. Frankly, it would scare me if she were to succeed John McCain in the presidency."
http://www.alternet.org/election08/98228/8_more_stories_about_palin_the_public_needs_to_know/?page=3

An overwhelming amount of negative publicity and sometimes shocking information has come out about her and her relatively short political career.

Among undecided voters, the Palin pick makes 6 percent more likely to vote for McCain and 31 percent less likely to vote for McCain. About 59 percent of these undecided voters do not think Palin is qualified to be president
Palin now hampers McCain's efforts to expand beyond Republicans core base.

public opinion about Palin
Approve Disapprove No Opinion

9/11: 52 35 13 +17
9/12: 51 37 12 +14
9/13: 49 40 11 +9
9/14: 47 42 11 +5
9/15: 47 43 10 +4
9/16: 45 44 11 +1
9/17: 44 45 11 -1
9/18: 42 46 11 -4

Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.

We are at the very begin.

ANTONIOS SYMEONAKIS
ADELAIDE
Posted by ASymeonakis, Sunday, 21 September 2008 8:10:07 PM
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It is easy to see where Hamad is coming from. By selectively quoting, one can always make arguments for or against any issue.

Hamad labels Palin and prejudges her based on the label. Although Palin does not take a stand on certain issues, Hamad draws conclusion based on her faith and “guilty” by association with McCain.

“And where does Palin stand on this issue? First, she is a member of a fundamentalist Christian Church that openly prays for God to turn gay people straight”

When Hilary is openly against marriage of gays, Hamad suggests that she (Hilary) may be insincere in what she says.

“Openly advocating gay marriage is considered to be political suicide in the US (just ask John Kerry).”

Hamad has unfairly branded Palin as a religious simpleton, a type of Christian equivalent of a typical Muslim who believes in using the sword to further the cause of Islam.

Below are extracts of Palin’s interview with ABC

PALIN: You know, I don't know if that was my exact quote.

GIBSON: Exact words.

PALIN: But the reference there is a repeat of Abraham Lincoln's words when he said -- first, he suggested never presume to know what God's will is, and I would never presume to know God's will or to speak God's words. But what Abraham Lincoln had said, and that's a repeat in my comments, was let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God's side…
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GIBSON: But then are you sending your son on a task that is from God?

PALIN: I don't know if the task is from God, Charlie. What I know is that my son has made a decision. I am so proud of his independent and strong decision he has made, …
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/vote2008/Story?id=5782924&page=1
Posted by Philip Tang, Monday, 22 September 2008 12:45:53 AM
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