Oh dear. The Great Green Hope, Prof Garnaut, has reneged on the global warming fanatics by preaching a little bit of common sense and restraint. This, of course, will happen more and more as time goes by and it becomes increasingly clear that climate change is natural, normal and no great threat to anyone -- that is unless we get the Little Ice Age that the absence of sunspots and the last ten years of global cooling seem to suggest. People like Garnaut with careers and reputations to save will quickly distance themselves from the hysteria like survivors pulling away from the Titanic. But regardless of what happens, you can be sure of one thing: nobody from Garnaut and the PM down will ever say "I was wrong". 'Revising the models' sounds much more respectable...

more oz-speak: "the government must..."

or you'll do what?

the government listens to a different drum, it's a simple rhythm, "get elected, get elected, get elected,..."

they run the nation to achieve that aim. the next election is their horizon, no farther. it must be, or the other mob would get in.

it's too bad oz doesn't have citizen initiative, but there you are, history is going to destroy us.

Mr Wrong: << The planet has cooled for the past 10 years. >>

This bulldust is an excellent example of the well known fact that, if the same twaddle is repeated often enough, most dunces come to believe it.

Full credit to Sams, but I for one don't have the patience to bother with what passes for debate about climate change at OLO.

The best that Sams and CJ Morgan can do is to make references to some higher authority and ad homiem attacks on anyone who disagrees with them.
There is a lot of mis-information,exaggerations and lies from both sides of this debate and the science is far from being conclusive.Remain sceptical.

"Climate change" may or may not be a challenge, but nothing will be achieved by introducing carbon taxes to reduce "greenhouse pollution".

It will merely drive up the cost of energy, feed into the price of nearly everything, reduce our standard of living and future economic growth, and move jobs overseas. Australia would be stupid to join the lemmings. The impacts will all be negative without any positives.

It is delusional to consider carbon dioxide to be pollution. It is plant food. Some of the world top scientists have said, in the Manhattan Declaration of March 2008, that human emissions of carbon dioxide does not cause climate change.

Garnaut does not even question the flawed IPCC "science" of anthropocentric global warming. In contrast to the often-repeated assertion that the science of climate change is “settled,” significant new peer-reviewed research has cast even more doubt on the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming. There is no evidence that increased atmospheric CO2 forces an increase in temperatures,or changes the climate. The data is ambiguous or missing, the science uncertain and absolutely no one understands the carbon cycle. Recent observations indicate that the Earth's temperatures are not rising, the ice isn't melting, the oceans are getting cooler, not warmer, and sea levels are falling. None of of these changes has been shown to lie outside the bounds of known natural variability.

The entire ETS is based on flawed science and is a detriment to future generations. It is being pushed by political activists with dangerous agendas.

I have come to realise that it does not matter if human caused global
warming is real or not.

It will not be possible to get *world wide* CO2 emissions down to the
level required to stop increasing temperatures required by IPCC.
There is just too much development in progress in countries like China
and India as well as Africa. It will be almost impossible to get
Australia's emissions down to required levels without crushing the economy.

Considering that global warming may be happening without human help
anyway, would we not be better off harbouring our resources and wealth
to mitigate the effects of global warming instead of wasting them on
trying to turn back the tide ?

We could be hit with global warming and be left with nothing in
reserve to mitigate it.