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Sarah Palin a change? What change? : Comments

By Ruby Hamad, published 5/9/2008

Palin may be a woman, but to many feminists and other Clinton supporters she does not speak for women.

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Good countering argument to Terpstra's earlier article, which had me wondering at the time how such a lightweight ramble could be given the editorial nod. Though once you know its title was an editor's choice, you soon realise that encouraging serious discussion isn't necessarily the priority here.

Thinking women won't be fooled by the Republican's cynical ploy to woo their vote. The more they hear from this woman, especially in her unscripted moments, and the more that surfaces about her past policy decisions and general modus operandi, the less likely they are to view her as a serious contender.

Mr. Right

"The slack-moraled left feminists have also attacked her daughter for being 17, unmarried and pregnant.."

Some evidence to back this claim would be useful.

From what I've observed, critics of Palin have been careful to avoid attacks on her family and are quite rightly focusing instead on attacking her wacky views and past policy and governing decisions. Obama himself, to his great credit, made it clear from the time Palin's family circumstances first surfaced that attacks on family issues were off limits.

All the Democrats have to do is stay on message about the myriad of substantive problems facing America. As well as going after the religious conservative and female vote, Palin has also been chosen very deliberately as a distraction. Republicans are hoping her novelty value and personable qualities will divert attention from being focused too intensively on the massive failures of the Bush government, and the fact that a McCain/Palin ticket will only offer up more of the same. Hopefully, the Democrats, and thinking voters across the spectrum, will not fall for this trap.
Posted by Bronwyn, Friday, 5 September 2008 12:42:45 PM
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The author is right. All the said lady represents is more of the same toxic psychosis, but ratcheted up to a larger degree.

Notice she uses the same code "elites"---meaning the left-liberals who supposedly control everything but in fact and reality have very little real power.

Real POWER belongs to the captains of industry, the movers and shakers who make the REAL decisions as to who is to live or die or rot away in The Planet of Slums.

In my opinion this essay says all that needs to be said about the GOP.
Remember that it was written 4 years ago.

A lot of rot has occurred since.

1. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7100.htm

So what do we have : self serving GODLESS exoteric religiosity combined with frontier capitalism----winner takes all, the war of all against all.

And screw the planet too.

Yes "creationist" "religion" is at its root fundamentally GODLESS.
Posted by Ho Hum, Friday, 5 September 2008 1:51:59 PM
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Bronwyn, I like the way you folks pick apart other posts, what fun .. I'll join in then ..

So you haughtily demand of Mr Right "some evidence to back this claim would be useful" when you yourself make this statement "Obama himself, to his great credit, made it clear from the time Palin's family circumstances first surfaced that attacks on family issues were off limits" and don't substantiate it.

Did he say it, where? Was that after his attack dogs went after her and he realised it was not a good look, right as the announcement was made she was McCains running mate. (unsubstantiated and I don't really care enough to worry about proving it or not to folks who are just hypocrits anyway)

Do you challenge any of the author's statements, just as vague and self righteous.

What you forget in your self congratulatory pickiness, is that you yourself might not be so perfect. You're all in such a spin about Sarah Palin, you forget yourselves.

This is such a hoot to watch you all going in circles. There should be a word for it.
Posted by rpg, Friday, 5 September 2008 2:14:51 PM
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rpg haughtily demands evidence Obama "made it clear from the time Palin's family circumstances first surfaced that attacks on family issues were off limits", and asks, "Did he say it, where? Was that after his attack dogs went after her and he realised it was not a good look, right as the announcement was made she was McCains running mate. (unsubstantiated and I don't really care enough to worry about proving it or not to folks who are just hypocrits anyway)".
A pity rpg doesn't care about his words (or spelling). Evidence (audio: http://i.timeinc.net/time/2008/Obama_090108.mp3, transcript: http://thepage.time.com/obama-transcript-from-jay-newton-small/), from the day news emerged:
BO: I have heard some of the news on this and so let me be as clear as possible. I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.
JZ: an unnamed McCain advisor as reported on Reuters that the despicable rumors have been spread on blogs some even with Barack Obama’s name on them.
BO: I am offended by that statement, there is no evidence at all that any of this involved us. I hope I am as clear as I can be. So in case I am not, let me repeat, we don’t go after people’s families, we don’t get them involved in the politics, it is not appropriate and it is not relevant. Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought it was somebody in the campaign that was involved in something like that they would be fired."
Posted by isabelberners, Friday, 5 September 2008 3:20:55 PM
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Sarah Palin is a vote for unstable laissez-faire credit houses and those relationships that promote chasing more hypo-capitalism.

US ctizens won’t see Palin make problem-solving attainments. Sarah Palin is not a leader of real change. She is a women of yesterday.

As a role model, Sarah Palin will pigeonhole and burden women further into a historical gender based ‘division of labour’ that doubles the social expectations of their performance role in civic daily responsibilities.

We won't see a stand for social class equity, mass individual freedom, nor any radical moves toward world peace or diversity from this gal.

As a political agent in vogue, perhaps. If you think casting a blockbuster movie demonstrates a women’s noteworthy capacity to employ weapons of war, contribute to the latest in-house-talk on how to shoot fire-arms, and raise a hand-ball call to assume the might of the military forces.

Sarah Palin represents the yellow right cronies, whose prayers advocate a conformist policy rule against all forms of regional and urban dystopia, without one look at breakdown of socio-economic, or political cause.

This women does not promote a civic crime prevention strategy and I doubt that she could find one modern, outside the 10 commandments.

Sarah Palin and all those who support her kind of policies, are out-of-touch with the pressures of everyday life, and are decidedly anti-women.

Compared to Ms Clinton, as a female leader, capable of representing men and women from diverse backgrounds towards efforts of their own self-determination, Sarah Palin is no credible match.

Women like Sarah Palin operate with a femocratic use of power, a power that can be worse, by degree, on fellow peers, then what we know from men.

http://www.miacat.com/
Posted by miacat, Friday, 5 September 2008 3:29:24 PM
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RPG. September 1st ABC news senior national correspondent Jack Tapper, asked Barack Obama regarding Sarah Palins 17 year old daughters pregnancy. Barck Obama replied " Families and children are off limits " ect.
Google (thats an information site!) Political Punch Jack Tapper.

Col Rouge. Maggie Thatcher destroyed the social infrastructure of the UK, and sold off anything that was owned by the British Taxpayer, to her mates in the top end of town.
To save her hide in 1982, she started a war instead of taking the political approach. The cost (not to her), was the loss of many young British and Argentian defence personel.
Posted by Kipp, Friday, 5 September 2008 3:44:19 PM
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