Well Col I'm sure there will always be hangers, female as well as male, who can't or won't make their way on their own resources.

One hopes that the dependable people are also smart enough to resist flattery. Unfortunately some people succumb to it because ego and vanity are their weakness.

Maybe some of the good people will be smart enough to choose themselves a partner with a feminist orientation so that they don't have sole responsibility for supporting a hanger on and children for several decades.

How couples configure their households and share the power and control between them is entirely up to them.

What I think we can both love about relationships these days is that a partner stays because they want to (whatever the reason) not because there is no alternative way to survive.

Pynchme "and both parents are responsible for maintenance - either in time caring for them or financially.?"

Not quite, child support financial responsibilities are based around earning history. The person who has never got off their butt and worked hard is deemed to be less responsible than someone who has worked hard.

In some cases if one has kept their assessable income low enough the parent with the near full time care of the child (or children) is still supposed to pay the other by CSA's view of the world.

I'm a full time parent (normally my son is with me 13 nights out of 14 a fortnight) and by CSA's assessment I should be paying my ex. I don't pay (by mutual agreement) but neither do I receive anything.

I've not pursued the possible avenues to get that assessment changed either, it's just not worth the risk of an increase in conflict especially so when it's very unlikely to make a real difference.

R0bert

Pynchme,
Your previous suggestion or inference that all these divorced fathers (now almost 1 in 3 fathers) are abusive or lazy or good for nothing is Marxist/feminist propaganda only.

I’ve have repeatedly seen it in industry, where a man is held in high regard by the company he works for, and is in great demand in that industry.

But exactly the same man is treated as a criminal and a second class citizen by the Marxist/feminists in the family law system and in our universities.

An example is the aware and loving feminist Eva Cox, who, to my knowledge, has never once had one good thing to say about men, even though they pay most of her wages, and built the university that now pampers her. That is her workplace.

HRS

1.

I wonder if you just make these figures up or if you're immersing yourself in propagandist woman-hating misinformation.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/bb8db737e2af84b8ca2571780015701e/5a3e269e290eb5b1ca2571b0001032d8!OpenDocument

2.

Sounds like you're saying that women should suppress their opinions because they should be grateful that men built this and that and pay them wages.

Do you want to elaborate on that absurdity?

Thanks Robert.

Nice to know that you have your son with you most of the time; while not fully excluding his mum.

All the best.

Pynchme,
The figures are very concerning

“Over half (52%) of children who lived in lone mother families never stayed overnight, followed by 44% of children in couple families and 36% in lone father families.”

After the children have been abducted from the father, the majority will rarely see the father in the future.

This suits the Marxist/feminist belief that fathers make children patriarchal. But fathers are good for work, and good for paying their dual tax of personal income tax and child support tax.

But to repeat something mentioned before, the family type now emerging as the most common family type is a single person household (if that is a family) and couples without children.

Some society.