Sorry Sams, Hansen and NASA have been thoroughly discredited as reliable sources of information. Hansen is a political activist:

http://www.skepticsglobalwarming.com/global-warming-myth/disputing-global-warming/nasa-astronaut-hansen-political-activist/

... who thinks oil company and coal company executives should be put on trial.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080423182208.aspx

People are entitled to their political views, but when it comes to putting the livelihoods of ordinary people on the line, then I think they should be subject to certain limits.

There are many sober minded scientists who do not agree with the IPCC line on AGW. The science is definitely NOT settled, however much you may wish it so.

Australia will have no influence whatsoever on India and China regarding the use of fossil fuels. All we will be doing is crippling our economy and putting people out of work for a purely symbolic gesture.

Froggie: "There are many sober minded scientists who do not agree with the IPCC line on AGW."

If you bother to go and look at the peer-reviewed climate science journals, you'll find out just how much of a fantasy world you're living in.

Froggie: "NASA have been thoroughly discredited as reliable sources of information."

Mate, the day you send probes all over the solar system and land humans on the moon, I might believe you, but until then ...

Sams, I said HANSEN and NASA have been discredited. Also, as it happens I have seen "peer reviewed climate scientists" disagree with the alarmism put out by the AGW proponents.

Also Sams, "peer review" ain't worth a damn when they are all singing from the same song sheet for their supper.

"Peer review" said the world was flat, until Galileo had the guts to object.

Froggie" ""Peer review" said the world was flat, until Galileo had the guts to object."

Obviously your knowledge of history is as good, if not better than your knowledge of climate science. I'll leave it at that :-)

Froggie;
You should have written that the IPCC got it wrong when they
said that the sun went around the earth and that Galileo put them right.

Quite right Sams, my apologies for the error, and Bazz is correct.

One concomitant with "Peer Review" is "Peer Pressure". It takes a very brave scientist to voice any doubts he may have about AGW.

One did recently though:

Dr Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project. Dr. Ball is a renowned environmental consultant and former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. Dr. Ball employs his extensive background in climatology and other fields as the Chairman of Natural Resources Stewardship Project.

I'm sure you'll find some way to denigrate these scientists though.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4511

Oh yes and there's Dr Vincent Gray:

http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=55387187-4d06-446f-9f4f-c2397d155a32

Art Raiche, former Chief Research Scientist of the CSIRO

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/csiro_heavy_says_dont_trust_csiros_scares/

and Dr David Evans:
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/DavidEvanswager.htm

I'm sure you'll find some way to denigrate these scientists though.