Oh fa Christ sake!. The're bloody pigeons, rats of the sky. Who gives a &#1^.

I DO! I think that if you check your facts that you will find that a considerable number of other do too.

The basic crux of the matter is not are they just 'rats of the sky' but that there is intentional mistreatment, in the form of inflicting pain and suffering, of these animals. If the birds died 100% of the time when shot there would be no issues here, sure it seems a little like cheating to kill an animal that has just flown out a box but OK fine, you wish to do that go ahead. It is that manner in which the birds that have not died are disposed of that is the issue. Try having a deer hunt where a wounded animal in bludgeoned, beaten, hacked at and generally mutilated. I doubt that you would even be able to drive home before being arrested. It is not that their pigeons it is the way that they die that is the problem.

The vocal bleading heart sooky minority cares? So who gives a &#1^. The're still rats of the sky. Spreading disease with the greatest of ease. You would be surprised how many don't care. Damm side more than care. Politically incorect. You bet!

Some humans will find any excuse for inflicting pain and suffering on another living species. How anyone could partake in the suffering of any animal as a sport or for 'cultural' or 'bonding' purposes is beyond me. Duck season results in similar casualites with many birds left to die a painful death via their wounds.

Political correctness or otherwise has nothing to do with plain and simple compassion.

Luckily I think most people so abhor these types of acts and can find within themselves some compassion for the humane treatment of animals.

The first poster is representative of the cretins who believe it's their right to torture defenceless species. Animal abuse is alive and well.

Humans, the greatest predators of all, are responsible for many of the outbreaks of disease in other species - diseases now mutating their way into the human body.

And humans, the greatest predators, are also responsible for the extinction of other species - trashing the planet's biodiversity.

We humans are now learning the hard way though many humans are too obtuse to learn anything.

In the meantime, perhaps the "bleading" poster, in post one and three, will consider engaging in a few spelling lessons?

Dickie and Pelican are absolutely right. I think we should be looking at this sort of mentality, and whether or not we want it in our society. When he banned duck shooting in Queensland, former Premier Beattie described it as "(not) an activity that is part of contemporary society in the smart state" (Mind you, his successor is actively funding rodeos!).

The particularly brutal thing about this is the mistreatment of the birds prior to their release for the "sport" of these morons.

To Jayb - ask yourself what the cause of most zoonotic diseases is. The human species has visited a plague on every other species on this planet in one way or another.

People who find tormenting animals acceptable, be it by their farming methods or their notions of "sport" really need to have a good look at themselves.

Nicky

Welcome Dicky, Nicky, Pelican & Athur N. Well, if it isn't Wallabies it's Pigeons now.

Zoonotic? I can't find it anywhere. I can find;
1. Zoolatry. Excessive attention to animals.
2. Zoonosis. Any disease communicable to man from an animal.
3. Zoophile. One who has an excessive love of animals.

You have made me feel so ashamed. I just remembered I killed that little mouse in the pantry, Then there were the moths I sprayed in the Vege patch. Not to forget the flies, mossies & fleas I've sprayed. The spray makes them itch until they die of a heart attack. It's a slow painfull death.

Do you realize that the majority of people think bleading hearts are a joke. We shouldn't because we do realize that you have, well, "problems" & at times you should increase your lithium intake.

The're still rats of the sky. Spreading disease with the greatest of ease & most of us don't care. Now run off & have a little cry.

Jayb, you are indeed a sad case. Accusing us of psychiatric deficits is really no defence to your own disorders (amongst them literacy deficits - it's interesting how those people more disposed to cruelty and other personality disorders tend to have more of those deficits. Perhaps you had a deprived childhood, that's the excuse mnost people like you come up with).

Think Avian influenza, for one zoonotic disease, clearly attributable (look it up)to intensive farming methods; Dickie is better versed than I am about the others, but BSE is another. Refer "zoonosis".

People like you do not have the personal characteristics we should be encouraging in contemporary, intelligent society.

Nicky

Hmmm. we all make a small spelling mistake occasionally, don't we. See below. "mnost"

"Perhaps you had a deprived childhood,(that's the excuse mnost people like you come up with)(amongst them literacy deficits)."

Sorry, I didn't have a deprived childhood. I grew up in the bush. Had a private school Catholic education. Typing is not my best point. I'll admit it. I'm a three finger typist so I occasionally hit the wrong key. but I'm not a rampant zoophile or serial Cause follower. I know you have to join a protest group to be able to pass the Uni exam. If you don't the professors will fail you. Been there, done that.

I still cannot find "zoonotic anywhere. I've looked in a Websters, Oxford, Macquarie, a Collins & a Medical Dictionary. No zoonotic. The closest from your discription is zoonosis.

I empathize with you though. I don't like blatent cruelty to anything either. Like leaving domestic animals or any animal that is in the personal care of someone without food or water. Feral animals are a different matter.

Dear me Jayb

You must have been one of the Brothers' failures. I'm sure they would be disappointed in a pupil (even with such an appalling vocabulary as yours) resorting to the following foulness:

"Oh fa Christ sake!. The're bloody pigeons, rats of the sky. Who gives a &#1^."

But just to help you out a little, please click on the following link. As the Brothers would advise: "Try to learn something new each day Jayb."

Good luck and may the good Lord give grace to the compassionate for it is difficult to give grace to the undeserving. Aye now and ain't that the truth Jayb?

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=zoonotic+definition&btnG=Google+Search&meta=lr%3Dlang_en

Thanks for that, Dickie!

Jayb, if you are not one of the Brothers' more abject failures in terms of learning and literacy, one would have hoped that a "privileged" education would have succeeded in teaching basic human decency and compassion.

All animals have the same capacity for suffering. Just because an animal is determined to be "feral", or a "pest" it has come about that any means of "control" is apparently acceptable, no matter how cruel or the degree of suffering involved. And let's not forget that the majority of those animals are "out there" as a result of human negligence, neglect, ignorance and/or indifference.

I didn't have to join any protest group/s in order to attain my degrees, either. What a bizarre notion. Nor do concerns about the suffering inflicted upon animals make one a "zoophile", either. It's basic, "human" decency, something you are rather selective about.

Nicky

Any society that still allows organised rituals in which animals are maimed and killed, for little other purpose than blood lust, disqualifies itself from being regarded as civilised.

Any individuals who need to kill defenceless animals in order to get their jollies are a blight on whatever pathological community tolerates them.

Of course, we are talking about America here - a society that glorifies firearms and which is arguably responsible for more death and destruction globally than any other in history.

"Oh fa Christ sake!. The're bloody pigeons, rats of the sky. Who gives a &#1^."

It's sarcastic wit and is used as poetic license. A style of writing you're obviously not familiar with.

I grew up in the country at a Slaughter Yards. let's see just what have I killed in my 62 years;
Innumerable cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, chooks & ducks. A few possoms, wallabies, birds & snakes, Oh, and just for shock value two & a half humans.

I do value life dispite your thinking otherwise.

A bit of hard reality. Nothing in nature, except humans, dies naturally. Almost everything gets torn to pieces & eaten.

Fact of life.

Jayb: << Oh, and just for shock value two & a half humans. >>

Well, that makes you a liar, murderer or idiot - or some permutation thereof. Please specify which.

Oh, silly me - that was more of your "sarcastic wit", wasn't it?

So, do tell: how many of the " Innumerable cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, chooks & ducks. A few possoms, wallabies, birds & snakes " that you claim to have killed gave you pleasure (or indeed a bonding experience) when you did so?

Jayb, with your proud record of slaughtering "innumerable" animals, I would hate to come across someone who doesn't value life. And there is nothing "poetic" about that language, either. I'd suggest you have a bit of growing up to do (even if you are 62). That Catholic education was certainly a long time ago.

CJ Morgan, although this was in America, and I totally agree with you, Australia doesn't have such a proud record either, when you consider "sporting shooters"; duck hunters, for example, and some of the brutal means used to destroy animals determined to be "pests".

Cheers
Nicky