Still havin' f'n trouble with computer. Managed to knock out much needed criticom.

Australia's latest climate change report reads like a disaster novel

Despite the above most of our OLO contributors are either CC Denialists or lack courage to back CC.

The CC inbetweeners are also mostly those who wish for the CC worries to go away - those still happy with life the way it is, especially in sport or business.

Quarry economics plus pitstock politics now Australia's lot. No worries about climate change.

Have Fun - BB

Sorry to see you go Clive. I have appreciated your well presented articles for some time and it is sad to see the loss of a truly alternative voice. Your well thought out views are in stark contrast to the established and vehemently held beliefs of much of the Australian public that are increasingly force feed their opinions by commercial interest including the internet. Unfortunately the public are increasingly accepting those views that fit most comfortably with the status quo no matter how poorly it is supported. Your retirement will be missed.

Wow. I am amazed by the vitriolic responses from the climate change sceptics. For a start the so called sceptical "experts" cannot present any scientific evidence contrary to the argument. All they ever do is make unsupported statements about scientists disagreeing. These "experts" are not scientists or engineers. They are accountants and business executives paid by large oil companies with vested interests and the losers cannot see any connection.

An article in The Australian a few weeks ago said climate-change believers were typically well educated & left-wing. Sceptics were typically conservative and, whatever their level of eductaion or understanding of the issue, remain unconvinced. Something to do with the newspaper they read or websites they get their news from.

Needless to say, editorial influence and the overall tone of a news source will sooner reflect than affect one's position. Who bothers paying to read stuff they disagree with? (yes, some here do but the vast majority don't)

The number of articles here questioning climate change orthodoxy would surely prompt the scientific community to ask if there's an agenda here. I don't think it unreasonable to question the motives of the editors.

That said, OLO certainly brings the fringe-dwellers together!

The AGW climate change promoters are the ones proposing a change in lifestyles and taxes on the people to achieve what they consider to be good outcomes. It is therefore up to them to prove their case beyond a shadow of a doubt. While not denying that the climate is changing, there is no evidence that it is changing more than what would be expected naturally. The AGW people are not providing any real evidence other than computer models. None of their other so-called evidence has proven bullet proof.
Their propensity to ad hominem attacks (climate change deniers et al) on people who reasonably ask for such evidence has alienated them, together with their wild-eyed pronouncements about the imminent death of billions of people, rising sea levels, destruction of polar bear populations etc. etc.
OLO does not discriminate as to who may join and post comments, so if there is here a preponderance of "climate change sceptics" then it is obvious to me that most people are turned off by such hyperbole and rancour.
Obviously no-one wants our world to be polluted, and if a change in how we source energy supply results in less pollution then most people would be happy about that, I'm sure.
One of the things that make me suspect the motives of the AGW proposers is their often accompanying refusal to entertain nuclear power, the only possible alternative for reasonably priced base-load electricity.

Porphyrin: "All they [sceptical 'experts'] ever do is make unsupported statements about scientists disagreeing."

Quickly followed by an unsupported statement: "These 'experts' are not scientists or engineers. They are accountants and business executives paid by large oil companies with vested interests..."

I note from wiki that "The hepatic porphyrias primarily affect the nervous system, resulting in [among other things] hallucinations and paranoia."