As much as I loathe the undemocratic regimes of Mauritania and Sudan, at least in regard to homosexuality, they are taking their religion (however barbarous it seems to us) seriously.

Peter Jensen and his allies point to the Book of Leviticus in the Bible to show how homosexuality is "wrong". But the same book tells us that "a man lying with another man" is an abomination and that they should both be put to death. It also says the same thing about adultery and incest although Jensen et al don't talk about that so much.

So, to be consistent with Biblical teaching, Jensen should openly call on authorities to implement the death penalty for gays and adulterers. Anything less would be letting God down.

DavidJS wrote:

"Peter Jensen and his allies point to the Book of Leviticus in the Bible to show how homosexuality is "wrong". But the same book tells us that "a man lying with another man" is an abomination and that they should both be put to death. It also says the same thing about adultery and incest although Jensen et al don't talk about that so much."

Possibly the reason that Dr Jenson & co are not going on about adultery and incest is that there is, as far as I know, no ministers nor bishops openly living, and glorifying, in adulterous and incestuous relationships.

Whilst I am sure that members of the clergy have sinned by adultery and incest, they have not prided themselves in those activities and displayed in public an attitude that these are acceptable for Christians.

Or, DavidJS are you saying that clergy should be able to enter into adulterous and incestuous relationships, as if it is okay to defy Leviticus re homosexuality it is okay to deny it for these as well?

BTW Dr Jenson has never called for criminal or civil penalties against anyone due to homosexual acts or lifestyle.

Ponder
Your assertion, derived from ignorance, that "modern education and scientific logic" accounts for the decline in followers of Christianity is unsurprisingly illogical, when followers of the Islamic faith are increasing worldwide; their faith having similar tenets to Christianity, as of course do other religions worldwide.

Why is it that many expect the church to stand for human rights in some areas but demand that State and Religion be separate in others. The mandate of the church has never changed. Our main mission is to save souls from hell. Granted we have failed with most Australians but great things are happening in China and Africa. In Singapore reports of up to 40% of the doctors are now bible believing Christians.

Let the denominations continue to squabble in house. No amount of talks will make fornication, child abuse, homosexuality or lying right. I admire Peter Jensen's stand but fear that his organization has been so infiltrated by compromisers (and that is being kind rstuart) that they are losing many of their people of genuine faith. Jesus will continue to build His church and the gates of hell won't prevail against it. He has never lied. You can be confident that He will continue to grow and purify His church.

People are fooling themselves if they believe that faith in Christ is somehow dying. As the stupidity and dishonesty of evolution is being uncovered daily by many, people are waking up to the fact that they have a Creator and are going to be held accountable for their depravity. Thank God for His marvelous Son.

Hamlet, Jensen should be calling for the death penalty for gays, adulterers and child molesters as consistent with Biblical teaching (read Leviticus). According to the Bible, same-sex relations are not only "wrong', they require the death penalty. No ifs or buts. It doesn't matter if the government of the day is not likely to take up Jensen's request - as based on the teachings of the Bible. The point is, Biblical teaching clearly states that adultery, incest and homosexuality should be cured with the death penalty. Jensen, if he was a real Bible-believing Christian, would be making this point. If I can't bring himself to do so, I can only assume he is a pathetic backslider without morals or principles.

DavidJS writes

'Hamlet, Jensen should be calling for the death penalty for gays, adulterers and child molesters as consistent with Biblical teaching (read Leviticus)'

Funny how my children at 5 could tell the difference between the Levitical law practiced by the Jews and the teachings of Jesus. You must have missed out as a child David. Good evidence why Christianity needs to be taught in schools.