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Kangaroo cull: necessary evil and the greater good : Comments

By Adam Henry, published 27/5/2008

Canberra's kangaroos - a genuinely open and ethical public debate could have expanded the options beyond 'to cull or not to cull?'

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Offers were made by wildlife groups to help relocate the “surplus” kangaroos and since most of us relocate and/or rehabilitate wildlife on a voluntary basis, costs would have been minimal. In fact, one of the wildlife groups had already found and had approval for a suitable release site. Many would have come to help for the love and respect we have for our wildlife alone and the years of knowledge many have gained raising and relocating kangaroos would have ensured minimal stress to the macropods concerned.
However,this logical solution fell on deaf ears as our government again ignored reason and did what they "thought" best!
Until people and our governments respect our wildlife and realise that shooting them is not a solution to whatever problems they perceive our wildlife is causing, the fate of our kangaroos will be the same as that of the Passenger Pigeon in America or our own Tasmanian Tiger.
Posted by Macropodlady, Thursday, 29 May 2008 5:26:35 AM
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What are we teaching our children. That has to be QUESTION OF THE CENTURY! Lets see! Greed, selfishness, Confusion, Hate, Jealousy, Bad morals and Ethics, Lying, Cheating, Stealing, Uncaring, Bitterness, Wastefulness, Destructiveness, Bullying, Violence, Sexual Perversion, Eating disorders, Religious nutters, and Blindness to reality. Obesity, Drug taking, Alcoholism, False and Ridiculous role models (sporting, Movie stars, Politicians, etc.

If I have missed any, please feel free to enlighten me.

Keeping up with the Jones syndrome, false hopes and dreams, debt, Iam better than you bullsh#t, and it goes on,and on,and on!

The rat race, which is killing us by the way, is nothing short of madness! I have with-drawn from this nut house meat-grinder of a world, and you know what the funny thing is, you all know it and you still take it up the bottem.lol

Overpopulation of humans!

I wonder what the problem is. mmmmmmmmm!

On a serious note, ( children ) monkey see monkey do! I hope you are all prepared for the consequences of your parenting abilities.

For some on this site, here is my non professional advice!

DONT BREED!( smile.)

All the best with your thoughts.

EV
Posted by evolution, Thursday, 29 May 2008 10:03:25 AM
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Alzo writes, "Oh my god people are becoming so soft. When this country faces a real crisis we are in serious trouble. FFS they are a bunch of roos....theres millions of them."

Alzo, that is such a ridiculous comment. How is it that you can point to kangaroo numbers when it is humans who are encroaching on the kangaroos? That is really really absurd. The truth is that those Belconnen roos were slaughtered to make way for housing developments because there are too many humans. Don't tell me that humans are too helpless to check their numbers. It is the politicians' faults for not standing up to the developers who are dictating to the rest of us how to live and how many we should be, just as we are attempting to do to the kangaroos. We are importing more humans here every day, yet we have the gaul to tell the roos that THEY are too numerous.

I suspect I need to draw a picture.

The kangaroo population structures are fracturing. Their populations are fragmenting. Once common species could crash very quickly.

We have been taught not to be compassionate and to believe everything we hear even if our eyes tell us a different story. Well, I don't buy that.

Great article, Adam Henry. Shame there are so many well-trained fools out there who just shout you down because they have been trained to do so.
Posted by Kanga, Friday, 30 May 2008 3:09:21 AM
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I forgot to post this URL: https://candobetter.org/node/542
Take a look at the photograph of the Belconnen kangaroos a few days before the slaughter. You would have to be unbelievably credulous to accept the story that these animals were starving or overpopulated. I have filmed hungry kangaroos. Where Australians used to stand up for wildlife, they have become credulous and uncritical. They believe everything that someone in 'authority' or the press tells them.

How could anyone believe that the authorities wanted to protect some plant, lizard and moth species on the army base when they run cattle there, they drove all over it with vehicles to kill the roos, and they intend surrounding it with housing estates and roads, and my guess is that they intend building on the base itself.

Why wouldn't the government allow the animals safe passage to other bushland?

I will tell you why. It is because they don't want wildlife; they want suburbs. They want more tv screens, cars, and widgets. They will go into hock for them and they will kill anything else that gets in their way. They want an unsustainable growth economy with a huge population of humans. Kangaroos don't buy houses or cars and so they have to go if the growth merchants have their way.

Some unofficial observers think that the full 'quota' may not have been met and wonder if the total number or roos in the Belconnen area had been exaggerated, since there don't seem to be many left. IF the numbers were exaggerated then this would COMPLETELY undermine the rationale for killing them. It would show severely inaccurate counting, destroy the argument of overcrowding based on estimated numbers, and bolster the argument that these animals could not be overcrowded since they were in beautiful condition and appeared relaxed and comfortable.

And maybe that is why the government renegged on its promise to count the animals before they started the shooting.
Posted by Kanga, Friday, 30 May 2008 3:36:35 AM
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I could not agree with you more Kanga. Well said!
I am amazed, horrified and deeply ashamed of the attitude towards our kangaroos in general as expressed by so many Australians in their comments over the past couple of weeks about the Belconnen kangaroos.
Don't they realise that kangaroos have never been a problem in this wonderful country but people have.
Until our society realises this and minimises/halts population growth, our wildlife,biodiversity and probably our own existence are seriously threatened.
Posted by Macropodlady, Friday, 30 May 2008 5:18:57 AM
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"Don't tell me that humans are too helpless to check their numbers."
Ok...mum's the word.

"It is the politicians' faults for not standing up to the developers who are dictating to the rest of us how to live and how many we should be"
Those nasty developers...forcing us into our McMansions and telling us to breed.

"I suspect I need to draw a picture."
Let those creative juices flow babe.

"The kangaroo population structures are fracturing. Their populations are fragmenting. "
OK we get the picture...fragmentation...Tim Flannery eat your heart out.

"We have been taught not to be compassionate"
Tell that to my kids...

"Take a look at the photograph of the Belconnen kangaroos"
I did....they seemed etheral...almost ghost like.

"Until our society realises this and minimises/halts population growth, our wildlife,biodiversity and probably our own existence are seriously threatened."
By god your're right! Here take a plastic suicide bag.
Posted by alzo, Friday, 30 May 2008 2:54:13 PM
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