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Fix the States, fix inflation : Comments

By Jason Falinski, published 27/5/2008

Infrastructure bottle necks, high property prices, lack of skilled workers, and wage growth, mostly in the public service, are all the purview of state governments.

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Arjay the federal government provides the Army, collects taxes and issues passports.

The state government educates your children, builds roads, runs commuter trains, provides water, built our electricity grid, built our gas grid, provides a police force and law courts to keep you safe.

State public servants traditionally trade off pay for security. Public servants have to be qualified for the jobs they perform unlike people in private industry who get the job because the boss likes them. Traditionally private industry pays better than state public service, so if the employee of a private enterprise is earning less than a state public servant then they should get another job.

Don't blame public servants for your poor pay!
Posted by billie, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 10:21:11 PM
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No Billie.The real stats for NSW are thus as of 2yrs ago.NSW Govt collects $40 billion in revenue Of this $21 billion goes to employing public servants.Of this $21 billion $7 billion goes to bureaucrats.We often have one bureaucrat to 2 front line workers on $100,000.00 pa with supper,holiday pay,long service,flexidays,and often on inservice not producing.

We have hundreds on PS in NSW who are redundant ,can't be sacked that the Govt are waiting to retire or resign.We have plenty of nurses but they sit behind desks!NSW PS has 3 times the no claims of workers comp than private enterprise.Most of them are out on stress.How can you be stressed when you cannot be sacked?So the Govt response is to decrease the benefits for all and insurance premiums also do likewise.In terms of payouts they are decreased and people in real hardship suffer.80% of Union power is in the PS.Again ,why do you need unions in a system of socialised privelidge?They are no differnt from the multi-nationals whom they detest.

This is why NSW is stuffed.Prior the last election Michael Coster said that we had 30,000 too many bureaucrats.This is over $3billion pa.Over the span of this Govt this is $36 billion that could have been spent on infrastructure.Instead ,we pay a fortune for tolled roads,no health care and no real public service.The exact amount that Morris said that the Federal Govt was holding back in term of taxes.Instead of addressing the problems ,Morris did a s deal with the Unions.Hence the financial debacle we have today.

The reality is that the NSW has squandered the money.NSW is stuffed and now with the world econmy going pear shaped thus we are doublely stuffed.Time to face facts Billie.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 12:28:10 AM
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Arjay: "Billie ,why should State Public servants be a priviledged elite?"

Because it's better for the state. The assurance of employment provide much greater value to the public servants than it costs the state, meaning the state will save in the long term. Employees will be more engaged in their work if they know they'll still be around when things go wrong.

"It is the tax payer in private enterprise who sustains them."

And it's the public service sector that creates the social and economic stability that enable the private enterprise to exist. It's a mutually beneficial relationship.

"How can you be stressed when you cannot be sacked?"

Perhaps they actually care about getting their job done. The most valuable and productive employees are the ones that fully engage their role and not see it as just a job to get money. Moving towards short term contracts and casual work will destroy any attachment employees have to their positions, resulting in lower morale and lower performance.
Posted by Desipis, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 10:32:31 AM
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Insipid Desipis.You have to be joking .You call this present PS of NSW better for the State?This is the lowest ebb of pubic administration I've seen in my lifetime!It may be good for incompetent Public Servants,but it has sent our state broke.

If you have a piddling argument, back it up with some facts an then use real stats to at least discredit the reality that I've painted.

Your argument is as pathetic and impotent as the Carr/Iemma Govts have presided over the lasr 12yrs.Iemma has a 28% approval rating which probably equates with the number of incompetents beneath him!
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 8:23:10 PM
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Arjay you insult Despsis and your statistics are vague.

Why do you think that reducing the public service payroll will increase delivery of services? The bloated bureaucrats will doubtless slash departments of service providers then reward themselves with big fat bonuses for reducing the wage bill. Services will be provided by contractors who are hired through labour hire companies. The owners of the labour hire companies will make massive profits.

All you need to do is look at the bureaucrat Michael Coutts Trotter, a convicted drug abuser who heads the education department. He is a person whose criminal conviction renders him unfit to stand in front of class anywhere in the country who has the nerve to slash the bloated payroll of NSW teachers.

Would you say that university graduates with 7 years exemplary work history earning under $75000 are overpaid? ie teachers. Do you think nurses are overpaid? What about the overpaid railway staff? ferry crews? road making crews?

Of course half of the state government's revenue goes in salary, state governments provide services. And because the bureaucrats in Macquarie or is it Phillip St don't want to negotiate with every individual state employees are represented by unions.

Every post you write reinforces my view of you as a single 30 year old ethnic male accountant earning a poor salary.
Posted by billie, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:01:40 PM
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Um, if MY memory serves me correctly, it was NOT a Fed OR State Labour Govt that abolished the apprenticeship training scheme, (thus creating the ground work for our labour shortages today) that stood Australia so well ever since it's inception.
I wonder too, exactly how many apprentices Mr Jason Falinski, employs in his manufacturing company of CareWell a provider of furniture and equipment to the health sector.
Not too, the recipients of his products, the Health sector, a sector that relies heavily on Federal and State Govts subsidisations.
Of course none of his article could be construed as self serving, or of having vested interests now could it ?
WOW, talk about the pot calling the kettle black ?
I also notice, the inflation mentioned in his article was evidant in Australia well BEFORE a Labour party was elected into Govt.
I also notice, the previous Govt held state Govts to ransome on many occasion, withholding rightful funds trying to coherce them into introducing federal policies, which at the end of the day, would NOT benefit the states, only the bearucrats in Canberra and their lobbiests.
My, my, what short memories some people have.
Posted by itchyvet, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 10:26:04 PM
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