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Western liberalism and the challenges of the emerging global order : Comments

By Russell Trood, published 11/4/2008

Much about the emerging global order is confused and confusing, while the international community is on the brink of profound change.

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Quite good article.

West power, now under American leadership, are great contributors of modern civilization, including science, technology and social order system.

On the other hand, west powers have moral debt by their initial expansion/(culture)genocide.

Moreover internal democratically elected govements usually pursue their maximum national interest by their power, this is dictatorship in international level. Emerging power and other force will inevitably challenge this dictatorship.

This dictatorship usually covered by pro democracy and human rights protection. The trick of Iraq democratization is easy to understand, while current manipulated Tiber riot and overwhelming pro Tibet propaganda is another trick which is not widely noticed.

Religious tolerance, culture tolerance and powers compromise are possible realistic solution. We will learn to tolerance and compromise by negotiation and possible small scale conflict.

Harmony of Human society and Natural society is a eternal topic. If there is no technical breakthrough in nuclear energy in the medium future, our current lift style is unsustainable. Social conflict and natural force will again bring balance between Human and Nature.
Posted by Centra, Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:38:20 PM
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What a surprise that a left-winger like suskind would latch onto a bizarre quote from an "UNAMED" Bush aide and use it to colour the entire presidency. Seems Obama has exactly the same problem with his radical minister. Not every aide actually makes and defines policy, some are just gophers.

A democratic senator and a former Reagan advisor must be telling the truth. I mean their perceptions wouldn't be coloured by the upcoming election by any chance, would they?

John Mc Cain will follow on with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Try and tell me he's insane.

George Bush was never running the war in Iraq. That was Donald Rumsfelds job. I agree he made a mess of it
Posted by Paul.L, Saturday, 12 April 2008 12:48:16 PM
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It is time for the Anglosphere to leave the diabolical United Nations and to set up our own body. Other nations could apply to join, and would be accepted only if they pass certain standards. Tinpot African fascists and Islamofascists lecturing on "human rights" would be hilarious if it were not so obscene.
Posted by John Greenfield, Saturday, 12 April 2008 1:06:28 PM
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Soft line never be a gift given by hardliner.

There are lots of Anglosphere organizations, but are unable to solve the global conflict. They also want to solve problem by overwhelming force, but failed.

Today, we can not afford large scale conflict between powers.

West power had a short time absolute dominant history in world history. But before they conquered the whole world, they failed to unite the whole Europe. There are intrinsic reason inside two World Wars.

There are a lot of languages spoken in relatively small Europe. This actually explain a lot.
Posted by Centra, Saturday, 12 April 2008 2:16:02 PM
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The Anglosphere is in decline in Anglo Saxon countries and internationally. If you see the synthesis of population in USA you will find that Anglo Saxon are a small minority, back of Latinos (huge migration of Latin America) and very soon back of African Americans( high fertility of African Americans). In Australian Anglo Saxons are very close to lose the majority, if already they are not minority, and sure the time works against them.
Internationally USA is in high decline, the cost of the invasion in Iraq will create huge problems in USA. Already USA economy has problems, If you read the results from the last sumit of NATO in Romania you will see that, Germany and France blocked Ukraine and Georgia, while Greece Blocked FYROM,ignoring totally the Bush. As you can see the old good days for Anglosphere are disappeared very fast!
Instead of the guns, invasions, violation of the international law, it is time for Anglosphere to respect the International Criminal Court and line with the international community.
Let's leave the European Union to drive our world, they are more mature and responsible.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by ASymeonakis, Saturday, 12 April 2008 6:57:05 PM
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Perhaps all the West can claim is to have written much about how liberal it claim it is. It cannot claim to have created the traditional values that underpin true liberalism.

In his book titled "The End of History and the Last Man"
Francis Fukuyama claimed that Western Liberalism is as good as it gets. FF stated that;

"What we may be witnessing is not just the end of the Cold War, or the passing of a particular period of post-war history, but the end of history as such: that is, the end point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government."

If this is the best than we have a very long way to go to realize liberalism in the true sense. At what cost will this be and to whom?
As nation states were born from turmoil and wars so too will global transformation.

The cost of creating the West is largely ignored and I'm reminded by Ghandi's quip when asked about what he should of "Western civilisation".

He remarked that "it would be a good idea".
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 12 April 2008 11:36:03 PM
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