Shelby: I'm so sorry to hear that so many people still think religion is healthy and good for them. You're being lied to...

Where's the difference in terms of a sensible statement, except there's less correlation between porn use and war?

40 YRS AS A PAROLE OFFICER. NEVER MET A SEX OFFENDER WHO HADN'T BEEN ON A DIES OF PRON.

It's true, OE.

Similarly, I never met a rapist who didn't eat food, or a male rapist without a penis.

Clearly, food and penises must be removed.

All I can say is DUH! of course people with aggressive sex drives will go for porn.

But that's no argument that the porn is causing it. Heck, it's just as logical - in fact, more so - to argue that porn creates an alternative outlet for sexual urges, as opposed to rape.

Christabel,

Let us assume that you are for the most part right. Lets assume that all women would prefer not to work in the sex industry, and those that do are poor and have nowhere to turn to. You also imply that they are strong armed into it, but that isn't legal in the OECD countries where most of our porn comes from. Girl are free to enter and leave the industry as they please. If anyone forces them to do otherwise I imagine they leave themselves open to charges or rape or false imprisonment.

As I understand it, you say you want to ban the sex industry "protect the girls". But the girls by your logic are only there because they have no choice. If there was some other choice - the dole, another job, moving back in with Mum or Dad - they would take it. So, presumably they work in the sex industry to put a roof over their heads, or to feed themselves or send their kids to school, or whatever - ie the situation has to be desperate. Because YOU don't like the sex industry YOU want this avenue taken away from them. They can sit in the street and starve, I presume.

Not that they would, of course. Every adult in Australia right now has lots of choice, so the women who work in the sex industry must find something attractive about it.

Despite all your posturing, I don't think you give a rats about women in the sex industry. Your main interest seems to be banning porn because you find the thought of men looking at it offensive. Concern about the women is just a convenient foil for the rest of us while you busily go about forcing your prejudices down their throats.

I’m not a great believer in censorship but balance is important. It seems to me that porn degrades the relationship between male and female.
Love is really about wanting good for the person loved and the sexual act is the expression of mutual love. But porn denies this and distorts our perception of the relationship. All exploitation of either women or men sexually or otherwise is really inappropriate. Unfortunately we don’t always live up to ideals but the world might be a better place if we all tried more often.

phonsie

phonsie, in some circumstances it may degrade relationships between men and women (or maybe men and men or women and women). Thats the choice of those involved not mine or yours.

I think it could be argued that greed does far more to degrade the relationship between people. One or both parties aspiring for the McMansion or new furniture, trip etc and one or both sacrificing time in the relationship trying to achieve that goal for their own wants or to respond to pressure from a partner.

It's fairly obvious that those who try and use sex to control a partner in a monogamous relationship harm the relationship.

Lots of things can harm relationships, they are tricky things relationships. Best built on mutual respect and love with an acceptance that sometimes the others needs or wants may not be our own.

R0bert