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Politics in the lecture theatre : Comments

By Jay Thompson, published 20/3/2008

Are there academics who brazenly force students to agree with their political views? Should universities only employ academics who are avowedly 'apolitical'?

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I hate to chose such an easy target but to claim for example the Bush administration are better managers than.. well you get my point.
Mickey K.
better managers than... Whitlam's administration ? Actually, I was thinking of the australian left vs right scene & yes I get your point.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 22 March 2008 7:40:05 AM
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I have taught in universities for years now and it’s been my experience that students expect me to put forward a view that is political. Indeed if I did not they would soon complain or probe me incessantly until I did.

And this should be applauded! I loath a quietly submissive classroom.

Students want to learn by testing ideas, debating, revising and thinking deeply and develop their critical thinking skills. Faciliating this is hard work. If it were simply a matter of preaching then therewould be no need for lectures at all.

Why not just give them a reading list and an exam to test their memmories? Because this is not not teaching, this is what many have called "banking education".

Students are not empty vessels waiting to be filled with ideology, they arrive at university with a clear understanding of what they believe or do not believe and universities should be a place where they can understand the rigors of how these beliefs came about as knowledge that can be challenged.

Those on the Right who complain about Leftist teachers and academics are those who have never taught for any length of time or really understood what it means to truly teach.

Many of my students leave my courses with the same conservative views they arrived with. And that’s fine. However I like believe I would have taught them why they have so called conservative views (we all have some conservative views) - and why there are alternative views. This is knowledge I often discover they did not have before they came to my class. However, I do not believe this to be a precondition of all students as the Right wingers like to believe.

Right wingers who want to indoctrinate without any reflexivity at all about their teaching practice or their ideological straight jacketing are the most destructive. Hitler showed us this.

The greatest treasure a teacher can bestow his students is the ability to see, not the ability to blindfold what they do not want to see.
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 22 March 2008 1:31:38 PM
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However, i reserve to right to not to put up with ludites here on OLO.
Their intellectual retardation is their choice alone.
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 22 March 2008 2:05:34 PM
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And what makes you think that you are all right! "Yes I know". but no-one will take offence. Again, its all about small minded people, isn't it. How your soap box makes you the underdeveloped, and out of touch, up themselves morons that you have made ourselves into, and you wonder why your students are leaving you. Your not as smart as you think you are.

You can be in touch with one thing( PHD overlords) or you can be in touch with many things. True, you have the right to your opinion, but don't profile, what you haven't encountered yet!

I think all of you on this thread can be so, well! you know how you are, and i will spell it out.

To experiment with two feet on the ground, takes a lot of balls, I guess your trash-cans may need a good over-hall, and there is profanity I will not stoop too.

And how we like to discredit people whom don't follow your point of view.

I do this out of my own time.

But lets just pretend, that this whole conversation, was based on the thoughts of the hypothetical.

If Iam totally wrong, please disregard.
Posted by evolution, Sunday, 23 March 2008 2:50:23 AM
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Not a bad article. Yep, the social sciences are full of lefties. It's the only place where they could get a job! Ha.

Even so, many business schools will also teach Freidman, Hayek, etc and marry the economic rationales with the political philosophy of each push.

It's somewhat paradoxical that it's the older left wing staff on campus (and I know this doesn't make any sense outside of a university) who are against change, thereby forcing the Federal Government to drive their instutions to diversify.

Lefty conservatives - or rather - NIMBY comservatives. Anachronisms.
Posted by Cheryl, Sunday, 23 March 2008 9:48:25 AM
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Hmmm. Another proactively defensive rant from a socially minded and inclusive individual.
Posted by trade215, Sunday, 23 March 2008 10:48:49 AM
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