“It is not just about climatology; it is also about freedom.”

Exactly, government is there to reflect the will of the electorate,

Unlike Gibo’s offering “world governments to force everyone back onto bicycles. But I think they are too snivelling to do the work.”

A government which has the power to force its electorate onto bicycles will never get elected and any one which tries can be removed at the next election. You might wish to embrace the lifestyle of a Maoist Chinese peasant but it offers little allure for me.

That is not “sniveling”. it is democracy at work.

Jennifer is course a full paid up propaganda hack for G-M so called foods and the "freedom" of farmers to use G-M seeds etc and so on.

All hyped and sold via the lies that we need G-M grains/seeds etc to feed the burgeoning population on this planet.

Anyone who thinks that the billion people who now live in slums as described by Mike Davis in Planet of Slums are going to be fed courtesy of the G-M "revolution" is seriously deluded.

Meanwhile please Google "The World According To Monsanto" for a thorough-going deconstruction of Jennifers G-M friends.

Guess what chaps, according to “pdev and Ho Hum” any writer with a known background and association with a Green or Environmental organisation is inevitable correct (LOL).

I congratulate Jennifer on bringing to our attention that there are many scientific voices critical of Greenhouse theory. It seems to me that the story of global warming is by no means complete.

We know from the historical evidence and contemporary accounts as well as surrogate evidence from dendrochronology (tree ring data) and ice core data that the earth has previously had several warming and cooling episodes. This must imply that there other forcing factors at work apart from greenhouses gases.

It is well understood that the relationship between incremental changes in atmospheric CO2 and temperature is NOT linear. A logarithmic relationship would provide a closer description of the relationship. Thus Professor Richard Lindzen writes to the Mayor of Newton .Mass

"It is important to understand that the impact of CO2 on the Earth's heat budget is nonlinear. What this means is that although CO2 has only increased about 30 percent over its pre-industrial level, the impact on the heat budget of the Earth due to the increases in CO2 and other man-influenced greenhouse substances has already reached about 75 percent of what one expects from a doubling of CO2. "Assuming that all of the very irregular change in temperature over the past 120 years or so-about 1 degree F-is due to added greenhouse gases-a very implausible assumption-the temperature rise seen so far is much less (by a factor of 2-to-3) than models predict.”
[http://www.globalwarming.org/node/85].

Assuming that the earth is a black body and ignoring any heat contribution from the earth’s core. The surface temperature must be a balance between radiative energy arising from the sun and the earth’s energy radiating out to space. Unfortunately the physical laws governing black body radiation [Planck, Wien, and Stefan Boltzmann] require specialist mathematical understanding.

The scientific debate on Greenhouse is not over. Any proposed government response to limit carbon dioxide emission is premature and unwarranted on the evidence presented to date.

Watched that pseudo-scientific show Catalyst last night with programmes dealing with anthropogenic global warming that should be preceded by a disclaimer that it is propaganda, not a documentary.

If anyone is concerned about an education revolution then it certainly isn't our National Broadcaster the ABC which shamefully promotes a belief in climate superstition. The programs were about creating alarm through sea levels and melting ice caps which is quite misleading. As an example to show up the deceit, the actual facts of the matter are quite different. i.e. Last September, NASA satellites showed the Antarctic Ice Field to be the largest it has ever been in the 30 years it has been observed by satellite.

Question ..... Would any parent encourage their children to watch this deceitful theology posing as science?

Keiran, I had a search on the NASA website for Antarctic ice-sheet data.

I found this: http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/ice_sheets.html ,

and this: http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2007/may/HQ_07115_Antarctica_Snow_Melt.html ,

and this: http://www.nasa.gov/lb/vision/earth/environment/sea_ice.html

Try as I might, I can find nothing that remotely resembles your claims. Perhaps you'd be good enough to post a link?

JohnL unfortunately I've lost that actual link but these are better and go to the IPCC itself. Make sure you check the last link.

Try here ...

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/02/27/antarctica-ain%e2%80%99t-cooperating/#more-312

and here ....

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/01/21/antarctica-snowfall-increase/

where you read ....

"IPCC in their 2007 report clearly states “Antarctic sea ice extent continues to show inter-annual variability and localized changes but no statistically significant average trends, consistent with the lack of warming reflected in atmospheric temperatures averaged across the region” (in fact, Antarctic sea ice extent has recently set record highs for both total areal extent as well as total extent anomaly (see here* and here)). Furthermore, IPCC tells the world (and we wonder if anyone is listening) “Current global model studies project that the Antarctic ice sheet will remain too cold for widespread surface melting and is expected to gain in mass due to increased snowfall.”"

then see here*
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.area.south.jpg