I'm wondering if those who seem to think it is the woman's fault for putting themselves in these situations and then getting assaulted would have the same attitude if some young AFL footballer was to pass out drunk and be found by a few blokes who were that way inclined and then taken advantage of?

I doubt it.

Would we then hear runner condemning the near naked male calenders of football stars?

Again I doubt it.

And do you think the victim of the assualt would be thinking "Hell I deserved that, that will teach me for getting so pissed that I passed out".

Now that I really doubt!

The fundamental problem is the public adulation given to sporting stars. Let's teach our children that well-coordinated thuggishness is not a skill worthy of admiration or imitation, and that toxic culture will evaporate. It's been considered passe for years to allow children to play with toy guns: let's extend that to footballs, tennis rackets and the other implements of competitive sports.

I think some people are missing the point. If someone was to burgle your house and take away some of your most valued possessions and it turned out that you had inadvertently left a window open, this does not excuse the thief just because you made entry easier.

Same applies to a drunk person who does not possess sound reasoning to indicate consent. While we might all say well she was stupid for becoming drunk around footballers Oh and she posed nude for a girlie calendar (as though somehow this implies a green light to rape) this does not diminish the crime. Rape would seem a strong punishment for stupidity.

While most footballers are not in line for academia, it is not rocket science. Rape is when there is no consent. If any man or woman who jumps into bed with a comatose drunk does not believe what they are doing constitutes rape then they are only fooling themselves

Pelican
Dave here that is exactly what I am saying you don't take advantage of a person just because they are drunk or drugged out but the thing is it is time to get some morality into this world. I have shared a bed in my younger days with a woman who slept naked & another that had her pants on & we slept in the same bed without anything happening & we were all drunk further I always asked a woman if she wanted to go home with me at the start of the night while she was sober & if she said no that was it Some of those women asked me years later why I just didn't do what the others did & wait til they got drunk They said no sober so to then take advantage of them drunk would be rape but I am the lowest scum going because I have been to gaol.
May your Lord shine on you all well
From Dave

Personally I have only heard of one case of a footballer being charged with rape, and I'm not sure if they were ever convicted. Alcohol was involved, and both were drunk.

There was a case in recent years where a number of footballers in a rugby league team were accused of rape, but after intensive investigation by many police, not one player was ever charged. However the club’s reputation was ruined, they lost major sponsorship, and there were a number of resignations from management.

There have been a number of male coaches in recent times accused of assault of the women they were coaching, but I don't think one has been ever been charged, although their careers were normally ruined after the allegation was made.

I cannot understand how clubs allow their professional players to drink excess alcohol, as even a hangover would affect the player’s game. In industry there are jobs where the employee has to have 0.0 blood alcohol content, and one would expect similar from professional players.

I would think that most of the allegations being made of professional football players are exaggerated, but any drinking or drug taking should be outlawed.

And on another thread HRS claims he has never seen an older man driving a sportscar with a young blond.

Much mirth and hilarity.

Thanks HRS(timkins)