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The lion and the ostrich : Comments

By Rafe Champion, published 29/1/2008

The mentality of the workers and the toffs made Britain the sick nation of Europe after World War II.

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Pericles2 (I hope this isn't going to become confusing)

>>In any case the facts of the British class structure and the attitudes that he described are well known and should not be in dispute.<<

Koestler was not English. He had an outsider's perception of the British class system. As a German Jewish refugee, his assessment of the complexities and nuances of the class structure is as instructive and as relevant as would be his observations on the ebb and flow of a game of cricket.

He simply repeats the same old tired clichés about the upper classes, and with these as basic assumptions, proceeds to argue common purpose with the workers.

Unfortunately, there are many people who think, like you, that this image of the British upper classes is "beyond dispute", when in fact there are subtleties and nuances that extend way beyond the trite simplicity Koestler imagines.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 31 January 2008 2:40:27 PM
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What's the problem, SJF?

The problem is that making a ridiculously inflated ambit claim demonstrates one's belief that the other negotiator is either a fool or a manipulative slimeball. Neither attitude is likely to bring out the best and most cooperative frame of mind in one's opposite number, and the result is usually time-wasting and acrimonious wrangling.
Posted by Jon J, Sunday, 3 February 2008 7:50:42 PM
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