I think that Pakistan will have to be ruled by a pretty strong and perhaps ruthless dictator for some time,since anything else will be looked upon as weakness in a totally chaotic and violent state.Democracy is poison to Islam and the Imans know it.

The US made the mistake of getting rid of Saddham who was able to control three versions of Islam that thrived on hatred.
When the US instigated "shock and awe" they created an rod for their own back.Iraq under Saddham was also the perfect foil for Iran.Now the US could go into another conflict uniting Islam even more.

The best way to control Pakistan is to secure the nuclear weapons and the let the various tribes exhaust themselves in conflict.Perhaps Pakistan needs to be divided again into the nutters and the moderates,otherwise people of ability and money will flee creating more instability.For the US to put massive amounts of troops on the ground would be an Islamic delight.They would fall into the trap of Iraq.

Only when these nutters exhaust themselves through conflict,will they begin to listen.Democracy is and evolutionary process and Pakistan is decades if not centuries from achieving it.How do you educate those who are blinded by religious hate?It is self perpetuating system that just spirals downwards.Their failures are blamed on the evils of the West and life will only get better through the passage of death.

Surely Allah has run out of virgins by now and there will be less incentive for this rancid,toxic way of thinking to perpetuate itself?

Stickman

Oh you are right of course. I should have used the word bigots.

But pray tell me do you see how Israel fits so many of your descriptions. Let me show you, and be prepared to watch the abuse flow.

...pointing out the ever-presence of violence and turmoil in Israel, the occupied West Bank and Gaza and plausible linkages to the religion upon which Israel was founded.

...why so many find the religion of the Hebrews the most loathsome of the monotheisms, in our times at least. Certainly the histories of other religions are littered with manifold crimes, but unlike the religion of the Hebrews and some Muslim elements, they have been brought to heel (to a large degree) by The Enlightenment and engagement with the reality of the unstoppable force that is secular humanism.

...If you then prefer to equate the murderous rampages witnessed in Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank (post the murderous assassinations of Hamas leaders) with culture rather than religion, you will be left with the equally certain proposition that religion and culture are indivisible, in a nation that only exists due to the religion of the Hebrews. An unpalatable proposition indeed,for a cultural relativist- albeit inescapable.

Hope you are not as offended by the above few accurate words ... as will no doubt a whole gaggle of Israeli fundamentalist bigots.

Cheers mate. Yep I'm wearing a grin and my tongue is stuck firmly where it should be.

Now Keith,you can call me a religious bigot,but don't try to play the race card just because others have differing opinions to yours.
Islam will not accept or tolerate any other philosophy but theirs and for most sane people this is untenable.If we don't stand up to this facist philosophy,then they will prevail.Many are saying that it is already too late for Europe.Isalm is by far the fastest growing religion there and it will eventually reach a critical mass whereby its philosophy will be enshrined in law.

Study Malaysia since Islam has been in political control.You have no rights unless you are in the fold.

An interesting fact about China is that Buddism I thought would be by far the prevailing philosophy,but the communists have surpressed it so much,that now under more freedom,Christianity and Islam will now outstrip their traditional belief system which is probably the best of the religious philosophies.

Why was Benazir Bhutto assasinated?

Probably for the same reasons which are outlined below, by others who wish to retain, or gain, the same kinds of financial reward for being strategically placed in high office of a country.

http://iram.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/benazir-bhutto/

//In 1995, a leading French military contractor, Dassault Aviation, agreed to pay Mr. Zardari and a Pakistani partner $200 million for a $4 billion jet fighter deal that fell apart only when Ms. Bhutto’s Government was dismissed. In another deal, a leading Swiss company hired to curb customs fraud in Pakistan paid millions of dollars between 1994 and 1996 to offshore companies controlled by Mr. Zardari and Ms. Bhutto’s widowed mother, Nusrat.

In the largest single payment investigators have discovered, a gold bullion dealer in the Middle East was shown to have deposited at least $10 million into an account controlled by Mr. Zardari after the Bhutto Government gave him a monopoly on gold imports that sustained Pakistan’s jewelry industry//

Truth? who knows..... does it matter? In the field of worldly politics this is 'par' for the course it seems to me, and as I learnt a long time ago... sin does not dissappear with high office, it just becomes more sophisticated.

The solution for sin, is humble repentance and faith in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Arjay,

You are not racist only a bigot. :-)

Is Boaz-David's attitude an example of the tolerance of other religions?

Falon-Gong has more adherents in China than there are members of the Chinese Communist Party.

Arjay, we just voted out the most hated self indulgent born to rule scumbags in forty years and I have been a card carrying member of the party since the middle seventies.

As for your comments on the Pakastani people's form of government, the British have nuclear weapons also, are a highly tribalised and racially bilgerent mob whose religion is dedicated to the destruction of non belivers. It has a civil service made of the same families that go back hundreds of years as well as a ruling elite in the house of lords that get into parliment on the basis of their birth.

Yet more and more of them keep coming to this country each year, refusing to become Australians or vote and worst appear on those dam info commercials and continue to bludge on our welfare system.

I would be in favor of deporting these undesirable in a heart beat.