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Climate challenge for Rudd : Comments
By Robyn Eckersley, published 4/12/2007Australia must work creatively with, rather than against, the architecture of the Kyoto Protocol.
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Posted by Bronco Lane, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 12:35:42 AM
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The article has nothing to do with nuclear energy and everything to do with setting emission targets beyond 2012.
As the developing world (non OECD) countries emissions now equal the developed world (OECD) and are growing at 4x the rate, any emission treaty not including targets for the developing world is not worth the paper it is printed on. By 2050 the developing world will emit more CO2 than the entire world today. The 30% savings in the developed world will mean that emissions in 2050 will be about 135% of emissions today. Robyn Eckersley sounds like a well meaning and ethical person in trying exclude the less developed countries from emissions targets until they reach a certain level, but it is like saying the less developed countries can hunt whales until their people are no longer hungry. The developed countries would feel good about not killing whales, but whales would still be dead. The path to hell is paved with good intentions. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 8:47:42 AM
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This presentation of C&C [links below] may help to clarify the commentary on Robin Eckersley's article.
It includes the Hadley 'coupled carbon cycle models' which make it clear that emissions need to go down to nearly net-zero by 2050/60. The C&C component assumes the fossil fuel contect of emissions against the back-drop of all emissions, as per the Hadely coupled carbon-cycle modelling. The 'coupled 450 ppmv Hadley' is mouse-touch sensitive for emphasis on 'touch'. The 'carbon-arithmetic' counting this in the animation is at: - http://www.gci.org.uk/Animations/BENN_C&C_Animation_[Tower_&_Ravens].exe or for Macs http://www.gci.org.uk/Animations/BENN_C&C_Animation_[Tower_&_Ravens].hqx Posted by aubreymeyer, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 11:48:30 PM
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