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By Peter McMahon, published 3/12/2007

Book review: 'Six Degrees: Our Future on a Hotter Planet' - we have eight years to halt the rise in global carbon emissions.

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Global temperatures have not risen since 1998, but CO2 concentration has been steadily increasing (at about 2 ppm a year). Was this dealt with in the book?
Posted by Don Aitkin, Monday, 3 December 2007 2:57:01 PM
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bushbred "bit like just moving the deck chairs on the Titanic."

but the technocrats are collecting the rental fees from the rest of us.

from a situation which was pondered in abstract terms 10 years ago and was not considered at all prior to the 1970'w, this 8 years or damnation seems too hysterical for words.

Call me a skeptic. Call me a cynic. I still have the feeling that, like the experts view of margarine versus butter, someone is using this global warming dross to justify their existence and setting us up to pay more taxes and to justify meddlesome interference.

Somehow, sooner, hopefully rather than later, this bubble will burst and the fraud will be exposed.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 3 December 2007 3:25:23 PM
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I am not quite sure that I believe that all the science is in on global warming, the so called climate scientists can't even predict the weather accuratly in Melbourne, so why would I trust them with whats happening in the world.

But we need to be reducing our population and not bringing in so many migrants into the country, especially into our already over crowded cities. We also have to remove farmers and irrigators that are not productive and are laying waste to the land with their 18th centuary farming practices.

Just get rid of all the hand outs like the family allowance and supporting parent pensions and our population will get smaller, this will also reduce our impact on the enviroment
Posted by Yindin, Monday, 3 December 2007 3:48:35 PM
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Seems to me that 'elephants will fly' to the comment that "Sixth, we will need to redistribute wealth internationally so as to bring in the poorer nations, and within nations so as to redirect resources. Taxation must shift up dramatically to pay for rebuilding infrastructure, training up the millions of technical experts we’ll need and preparing the health system for unavoidable costs of temperature rises already under way." We can't even get governments to pay for infrastructure for rail and buses in sydney, let alone doing something about all of this and getting the really really wealthy to pay tax rather than to allow them to minimise it to less than those on 40,000 pay.
Posted by adventures007, Monday, 3 December 2007 4:47:47 PM
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Another doomsayer - making a lot of money from the AGW hype.

"Lynas is a science writer in the UK who trawled through numerous scientific papers that rarely get popular attention"

read that slowly - Lynus is a science WRITER, then, TRAWLED through numerous scientific papers, RARELY? GET POPULAR ATTENTION?

Not so, that's all we hear about - the catastrophic doomsaying - the sky is falling stuff.

Yes we need to look after our beautiful planet, our loved ones and our neighbours, but we also need to be practical.

We listen to all these doomsayers - who are doomsaying from their warmed houses in winter, cooled houses in summer, with their mobile phones, computers, ADSL,cars etc.

I LIVE in a very poor "third" world country, where most of the folk rise in the dark and slog 8-12hr days,hard manual labour and earn about $6US per day. Some have no electricity, keep goats and cows to keep warm in winter, put up with the heat in summer - live at a subsistance level!. Is that what you would wish for the rest of the developing world in order that we sustain our level of comfits? Interestingly enough, mostly the people here don't care about the environment, they are too busy trying to survive. There are more polluted rivers here than anywhere I saw in Oz, Europe, America

Don't get me wrong - I walk when I could drive, I pick up other peoples litter and return it to them - 'excuse me you've dropped something', or bin it if I don't see them doing it, low energy light bulbs etc, BUT ...

Some articles from "the other side" that might put things into perspective:

http://www.nzcpr.com/guest76.htm
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=6710
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313966,00.html
http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/Ecoterrorism.htm
Quote 1993: Carl Amery: Spokesman of the Greens in Germany said: "We in the Green movement aspire to a cultural model in which the killing of a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels. "

How sad - Environment at all costs - these are the people they ask us to emulate?
Posted by fiandra, Monday, 3 December 2007 4:57:59 PM
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I started to learn to ignore warming deniers months ago when they started coming out with absurd statements like "Global temperatures have not risen since 1998", which show a complete lack of understanding of annual variation vs decadal trends.
And note that 1998 was, along with 1934 (either fractionally warmer or cooler, depending on whose data you use), the warmest year for the continental U.S., not the globe (2005 is still the hottest year on record for the planet as a whole).
On that basis, you might as well argue that temperatures in the US haven't increased at all since 1934.
Posted by dnicholson, Monday, 3 December 2007 5:13:36 PM
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