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>> This will not eventuate without the mobilisation of the US working class on a socialist program in opposition to the entire political system. The US working class will then provide economic and practical assistance to the working class in the Middle East who will decide their own fate

Just because you say it doesn’t make it true Tao, This is utter rubbish. The US will leave when Iraq is strong enough and stable enough to stand on her own. Talk about childish logic, Pollyanna? Will we all hold hands and have puppies and be NICE to one another?

>> Under the capitalist framework, the US simply will not pull out and not stop meddling in the Middle East. Its reasons for being there are economic and have nothing to do with terrorists.

Under the capitalist framework? You’re predicting the outcome of events based upon an outdated, outmoded and demonstrably flawed political and sociological theory that divides the world into two groups with mutually atagonistic aims. Based upon the US gov’t membership of the latter group you think you can predict their behaviour? Tell me then, how the US involvement in Bosnia/Kososvo fits into your fairy story. How about explaining the intervention in Somalia with your theory?

>> Nowhere have I declared the US my enemy. I oppose the US ruling class, and that of every country in the world.

The US isn’t your enemy but you want the working class to overthrow their democratically elected gov’t. It’s a logical fallacy anyway to separate the US gov’t from the US people since the gov’t is democratically elected and therefore represents the people.

PauLL,

“Clearly the military analysis is beyond your understanding however the political ramifications aren’t all that hard to work out. The Sunni and Shia are fighting each other now, why would the early exit of the coalition help solve that problem.”

What do you think of the fact that the US is funding Sunni tribal groups to put militiamen onto the streets of Iraq’s cities– about 70,000 of them, hostile to Shiites, and outside of the control of the Iraqi government and security forces?

See http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/22767.html

& http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20071129/wl_mcclatchy/20071129bcusiraqsunnis_attn_national_foreign_editors

“The Baghdad neighborhood of Saidiyah is becoming the focal point of a growing battle between the U.S. military and the U.S.-backed Iraqi government over the burgeoning number of U.S.-financed armed groups known as "concerned local citizens."
“U.S. officers in the neighborhood said that the Shiite Muslim-led government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki is undermining American efforts to bolster the volunteers, who are predominantly Sunni Muslims. At the same time, U.S. soldiers acknowledged that some of the volunteers could be sympathizers of al Qaida in Iraq and other anti-government organizations.”
“[Capt. Sean] Chase, however, isn't certain that the new volunteers can be trusted, either…."The Iraqi security volunteers are borderline between al Qaida and the coalition," he said. "Right now they're more pro-coalition because we're paying the bill. As soon as you stop paying them, why should they help us? Why won't they go work for al Qaida?"

Al Qaida sympathisers!! Apparently, some of them were Saddam loyalists!!

Given your apparent concern for the sectarian violence already occuring in Iraq, and the supposed potential for civil war if the coalition left, I’d be interested in your military and political analysis of why the US would fund armed militia groups of potential sympathisers of its supposed enemies, outside the government security forces.