Atom235,

Where's YOUR plutonium powered Delorean?

Huh?

I'm the one with the Nuclear Fusion powerd telephone box .. and the P....E..A.K-KAEP agenda.

The only reason my telephone box is Fusion powered is because years ago I made a strong investment in Total-Nuclear-Industries that gave me the ENERGY, Thermodynamic ORDER/information/Knowledge and the ongoing nuclear expertise proficiency required to develop it.

Ya get the point?

Yes, I get the point(s).
1. That you have vested interests in the nuclear industry. Thankyou.
2. You insist on taking this issue to your own agenda - that of impracticle and theoretical mass use of nuclear cars.
Mmmm..

At least, re climate change, we might acknowledge that 36% of global GHG emissions is attributable to electricity, with almost 2/3 of sources being TRANSPORT, deforestation, industry and agriculture (International Energy Agency).

Which, again, only leads into the fact that even IF nuclear were sustainable, insurable, not weapons proliferation complicit, or THIRSTIER than any other form of power generating, it still ignores 64% of the human induced GHG issue.

http://www.VoteNuclearFree.net

PEAKOIL? Nuclear power and increased laser-fusion research can save the world. It will BRIDGE PEAKOIL add clean energy, lower global entropy, increase thermodynamic ORDER andconsequently increase human intelligence to a point where we all KNOW that humans and not some foolish greenhouse warming notion is destroying human cibvilisation.

Climate Change? One child per family policies in all nations and Engineered wetlands to filter current human sewage & wastewater emissions can stop the most egregious thermodynamic imbalances in the world's ocean surfaces that are the direct cause of climate change.

Global warming? Is merely a side effect of human caused dynamic oceanic pollution profiles. In fact while the Earth is warming we know from thermodynamics that that the Earth is healthy and not converging to a deadly thermodynamic EQUILIBRIUM. The problem is that the heat circulation and biological absobtion mechanisms in vast expanses of high heat capaity ocean surfaces are rapidly deteriorating proportionate to exponential increases in human numbers and coastal migrations.

The following ??scientific?? pro-greenhouse-warming article

http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/can-science-really-save-the-world/2007/11/06/1194329224846.html

suggests lowering global-solar-energy-input and polluting oceans and skies to stop greenhouse warming. Thermodynamics tells us both measures will lead to a higher entropy or more disordered Earth. Both will hasten planetary thermodyanamic equilibrium and the end of mankind's ability to perform WORK and create a future.

The article ignores human population growth. Scientists failing to comprehend Thermodynamics-101? They are faux-scientists paid by oil companies and global corporate executives who want bigger populations,markets and profits in a new world FEUDAL order. Its PROPAGANDA. The article gives false hope. It will prevent necessary population control programs and squash GEOTHERMAL, NUCLEAR FUSION and MERCURY ORBIT power generation programs necessary to propel mankind into the 22nd millenium and beyond as FREE people.

The article and its backers are a crime against humanity because under their stupid global domination schemes a 2025 PEAKOIL will lead to Ricci flow dynamic hurricanes of terror that will kill 7 billion people and put the remaining 2billion back to a PolPot yearzero.

Go 4Growth? Where's the sense?

Go 4Nuclear & stabilise populations NOW!

And if its not PBR its NOT on?

re Shadow minister's statement about "toxic progeny":
It's best to look at the whole uranium decay chain, and appreciate the difference between radioactive damage and chemical toxicity.

The Institute for Energy and Environmental Research provides a good reference for the whole uranium decay chain. I've copied part of it below.

The major exposure concern is alpha radiation, which can be stopped by a very thin sheet of paper. If it is released inside the body, it is largely "stopped" by being absorbed into living tissue. The damage done to the cell's genes explain how radiation causes cancer, mutation and birth defects. Alpha radiation is far more potent at causing cellular and chromosome damage than X-rays or gamma rays. Beta radiation is also more potent than X radiation. This helps explain the thousands of cancer deaths attributed to Radon, by Shadow Minister.

It's important to note that every radioactive atom of Radon 222 will eventually decay into an atom Polonium 218, and so on, down the decay chain, until that atom finally becomes stable, as non-radioactive Lead-206.

Polonium 218 is another alpha-emitter. Its chemical toxicity is not, to my knowledge, a problem for people inhaling Radon gas. But its alpha radiation is roughly as energetic and damaging as that of Radon 222. If Polonium 218 is absorbed into the body rather than breathed out, there is better than 99% probability that is decayed after 10 half-lives, or about 30 minutes.

The same goes for the other short-lived isotopes. After about 5 hours in the body, the radioactive atoms that have decayed there, from Radon 222 to Lead 210, will have delivered up to 5 shots of radiation to living cells.

See:
http://www.ieer.org/fctsheet/uranium.html

Radon-222
(half-life: 3.82 days)
by alpha decay
to
Polonium-218
(half-life: 3.11 minutes)
by alpha decay
to
Lead-214
(half-life: 26.8 minutes)
by beta decay
to
Bismuth-214
(half-life: 19.9 minutes)
by beta decay
to
Polonium-214
(half-life: 163 microseconds)
by alpha decay
to
Lead-210
(half-life: 22.3 years)
to
Bi210, then to to Po210
and finally to
Lead-206
(stable)

Inside the body, polonium-210 is extremely damaging. Alpha radiation is harmless outside the body, but it is twenty times more damaging to living cells inside the body than the more penetrating types of atomic radiation such as gamma and beta radiation.

Unlike radium, which concentrates in bones and teeth, polonium-210 attaches itself to the red blood cells, and is carried to all the soft organs of the body in turn.

There it damages the liver, spleen, bone marrow, lymph nodes, thymus, gastrointestinal tract, and gonads.

The Inuit have larger amounts of polonium-210 in their bodies than any other North American residents because of the “lichen ? caribou ? human” food chain.

Since these measurements were never made before 1960, it is not possible to say how uranium mining in the Northwest Territories and Northern Saskatchewan may have contributed to the levels of polonium-210 in caribou meat and hence in the bodies of the Inuit people.

Measurements of radioactivity in caribou meat began in 1960 primarily to investigate the high levels of cesium-137 deposited on lichen from the atmospheric testing of atom bombs in the American southwest.

After Chernobyl, levels of cesium-137 went up in both reindeer and caribou herds (Figure 12). But the high levels of polonium-210 were a bit of a surprise.

Exposure to alpha radiation at non-lethal levels was already well documented as a cancer-causing agent. In the case of polonium-210 the number of organs at risk is especially large.

But radiation-induced cancer generally takes decades to show itself, as the damage that is done to individual cells is multiplied and spread by the slow process of cell reproduction.

Contd...

Short half-lives are hardly relevant when a parent iosotope continues to breed progeny where, in spite of the progeny's short-half live its radioactivity can continue ad infinitum.

The massive use of water to feed uranium mines is not the only problem with this industry. It is the "replenishment" cycle of the decay chain contained in tailings or waste which has interested me:

The radioactive materials left behind in the uranium tailings are among the deadliest poisons known to science: radium-226, that killed so many of the dial painters; polonium-210, radon gas, which remains one of the deadliest cancer-causing agent ever encountered; as well as thorium-230, lead-210, and others.

The danger posed by a radioactive substance is not indicated by its weight or its volume, but by its degree of radioactivity. Radioactivity is measured in ”becquerels”. The number of becquerels is the number of radioactive disintegrations that take place every second.

When uranium ore has lain undisturbed for hundreds of millions of years, then all of the uranium decay products will have exactly the same radioactivity as uranium-238.

For example, if a 10-kilogram rock contains 1,000 becquerels of uranium (about one gram), it will also contain 1,000 becquerels of radium-226, 1,000 becquerels of polonium-210, 1,000 becquerels of radon, and so on.

The total radioactivity of the rock is 14,000 becquerels, since there are 14 different radioactive substances in the “decay chain.” Once the uranium has been removed (two varieties) the residues still have about 12,000 becquerels of radioactivity left.

To make matters worse, most of the uranium decay products are constantly replenished by the on-going radioactive disintegration of thorium-230, which has a 76,000 year half-life. This means that only half of the atoms of thorium-230 will disintegrate in 76,000 years.

Thus the amount of radium, polonium, and radon in the tailings will remain almost the same for thousands of years, and will only be reduced by half in about 80,000 years. So how does one keep millions of tons of radioactive sand out of the environment for 80,000 years?