redneck, obviously any link between crime, poverty and ethnicity is never going to be proved or disproved by cherry picking examples.
Yes, there are times and places with extensive poverty and little crime - I'd guess this is because the poverty was/is widely shared, and everyone felt/feels like they're all in it together (stories from the Great Depression seem to confirm this).
I don't doubt that much of the crime among black populations is due to a "sub-culture" that has developed among them where violence is glorified. Multi-culturalism does not mean accepting all aspects of other cultures: some are clearly incompatible or undesirable. But, again, where is the evidence that blacks are inherently more likely to develop such a sub-culture? Has someone actually seriously studied the genetic make-up of blacks and said well, look, here is this correlation between genes A, B and C and behaviours X, Y, and Z?
And if it is there, then isn't the best solution to find ways to ensure such a sub-culture doesn't take root? (something that's not likely to be successful if its white governments imposing such changes, while blacks see whites as an oppressive enemy). I understand anti-ghetto laws have been tried in France, not sure how successful they've been.

BTW which criminologists have rejected the poverty-crime link? I agree it's simplistic and insufficient to explain all crime, and in many cases it's likely that crime causes poverty, leading to a vicious circle. My suspicion is that there are significant genetic traits that cause some people to be more likely to choose crime than others, but as long as people have a decent standard of living, those genetic tendencies can be relatively easily suppressed.

Well said redneck.

You have the ability to see through all the smoke and mirrors to see the truth. People need to look to the facts.

The other day there was an article in the paper telling us that sudanese people are under represented per capita in crime stats in Australia, because they cause around only 1 % of crime. Yet I find it difficult to believe they represent anywhere near 1% of our population. Unfortunately there are many ignorant people out there that are unable to think for themselves.

Personally I would think that makes them at least 10 times more likely to cause crime than the rest of the population.

cacofonix: "(on behalf of daggett)"

James, since unlike you I don't have a host of sock puppets to post for me in contravention of the intent of the forum rules, I haven't been able to respond until now.

One of your alter-egos may recall that I have tried to engage on the substantive issues to do with this thread - namely the author's contention that Australia's immigration policies are 'racially' biased - but you have declined, apparently miffed that I've exposed your sock puppetry.

I repeat: I think that there are probably good reasons to limit Australia's immigration intake on ecological grounds, but so-called 'race' should not be a factor in considering who gets to come here. You derailed the discussion early in the piece by posting a very suspect "quotation" from Gore Vidal - that you have been singularly unable to verify, but which served your purpose to dog-whistle support for your cause (whatever that may be) from the racists in this forum - who range from some knuckle-dragging types with appropriate nicknames to slightly cleverer Alf Garnett types.

I'll ask you again: what level of immigration would you consider appropriate for Australia, and what are your reasons for supporting 'racial' criteria - if that is indeed your position?

So redneck, tell me, what do you consider racism to be.
After all these discussions on like where you want to defend the virtues of whiteness, you never really define racism - you just defend white power.

So come on, cough up big man, tell us what you think racism, what you understand it to be, even throw in some historical examples.

I look forward to reading your explanations

Swiss have had a gut full!

Foreigners make up 20% of population in Switzerland.

Foreigners make up 70% of prison inmates.

This beacon of civilised society are now making a huge shift to the right. Any immigrant apprahended committing a crime will now serve thier sentence and then be deported forthwith.

Sounds pretty sensible to me, would be a winner here also.

Redneck,

Totally agree, dumb people commit crimes, drunken people commit crimes, bored people commit crimes, be they black, white or brindle they are what they are.

Question here is, do we allow our society to be dragged down UK style fully knowing the consequences by allowing people with some of the lowest IQ's in the world to come here at the bequest of a feel good minority? NO

Rainier,

Its only racist if your white isnt it mate.

Its only through white Australias generosity that your people are still alive. Your people are the most pampered and pandered to indigenous people on Earth, 28% of this continent has been given back to you, billions spent for nothing. We have tried.

I would like you and yours to thank white Australia.

You have nothing to whinge about except your own people.
Good old black chip on your shoulder isnt there.

I know your mob, I am your mob.

Scotty, Redneck is redneck, but is not he a product of a "white generosity"?

Are you serious thanking Anglo-th ... s for "civilization"?