Nor Christians need the HUMBUG and SUBTERFUGE of Irfan to know what is in Muslim minds.
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'Debates on these issues should be open to all and not just those deemed to be experts.'

Absolutely not! What would be the point of the debate, other than for the non-expert representatives to sabotage the 'degate' with their own racist agenda.

Well I don't need any experts to tell me what I already know- that suicide bombing or terrorist attacks are in fact a form of ethnic cleansing.

Irfan said:

[To link 300,000-odd Australians who tick the Muslim box on their census forms to national security concerns is inflammatory to say the least.]

I quite agree with that.

However, targeting sedicous groups like Hizb Ut Tahrir and highlighting them as a danger is very legitimate.

In fact it is a responsiblity. Sadly, when one criticizes such radical groups, the usual suspects drool at another opportunity to misrepresent such criticism and claim 'you call all muslims evil'....

I don't see too many 'right wingers' crying or whining when they are repeatedly mentioned with utter bile by lefties here... Why not berate and rebuke those leftoids for 'smearing all right wingers' ?
"Tarring all conservatives with the same evil brush".

Come come.. a bit of consistency would be nice.

Muslims cannot even agree upon what they believe,how would a Kaffur know?Hilali was criticised by a sparse few but there was no great calamity of objection.The reality is that Halali still has a lot of support.Why would hundreds turn up to his sermons and laugh hilariously at his obscene jibes of infidels?

Take succor with a grain of salt from your religions,since they were invented by man to control man.

Think tanks are essentially right wing groups that are set up for propaganda and economic interests. Their brief by the politicians, is a ploy to give some fig leaf of creditability to often criminal enterprises and reactionary ends. We are told, they are staffed by 'very brilliant people with smart ideas and business savy.' Their task also, is to formulate solutions that distract attention away from what the politicians are doing - to divert attention and pressure outwards. They often act as safety valves that channel steam and veil the real intentions at hand. The major points of the white Australian policy by the Labor Party was formulated with this in mind and to scapegoat immigrants for all the ills of society; often to blame immigrants precisely for what the politicians were implementing. As well, to divide and emasculate workers.
A well known ploy has been to scapegoat immigrants and declare them "illegal" even if fleeing from brutal murderous regimes and incarcerate them. In contrast, many natzi's including alleged war criminals were taken in to Aust. and given substantial favored treatment after the second World War right up till the 1990's. Some were given new identities.
The center of much of the worlds attention today is the criminal war, plunder and rape of Iraq. The latest figures are estimates of 1.2 million deaths and 4 million refugees. Those figures well and truly pass the population of Sydney or Melbourne. The figures do not include the medical trade sanctions placed on Iraq in the 1980 and early 1990's so that disease would spread. The vilification of Muslims is bound up with new murderous plans to dominate and plunder major areas of the Middle East and oil; so that people can accept multi- millioned casualties in criminal wars. Workers are the same globally and their need is unite internationally rejecting the straitjacket of economic nationalalism, exclusion, and seperation.