I think we should have the referendum

This way something can be sent to the people.

Rudd already has got the ok from state with the power transfer to federal.

The question is will he have a referendum for it.

Thus what have the states got to do then.

Demos instead of wingeing why not add this could be done.

We keep saying that we do not get enough money for education and other facilities, after what i was told I see why.
If the federal government gives 100 grand for one school once this goes through state the school ends up with 60 grand.

Hello.
So one has to ask with the states
The amount of corruption
the amount of sexual and physical abuse that is ignored
what do they do for us really besides looking after themselves.

So if we can better ourselves then why not.
If the local councils who are in the know but still beating the states doors for money for which they will only be given 60%, the states then winge.Its federals fault they should give us more to spend on ourselves and waste.

Things need to be really looked at but since the pollies are their for their own parties we are only collateral damage.

Stuart Ulrich
Independent Candidate for Charlton

Fred,

With all due respect, I think you've completely missed the point of this discussion at the macro level, and instead have written with a rather backwards looking perspective in this post. The best part is the final question - and yes, I think a plebiscite.

Take a look at it from another perspective:

If humanity found a new chunk of land which was roughly the size of the USA, decided that we would populate it with 20-odd million people sourced from 160 odd countries from around the world and establish a new country and government, what sort of government would you create? That decision would need to take into account logistics, technology (particularly communication and IT) and all manner of other topics.

Would you create a 3 tiered system with horrendous overlaps between the two "highest" levels? I bet you wouldn't.

This should be the basis of the discussion - what is the appropriate method for governing the country from this point on.