Dr Mac
I was just making a point as to the natural progression of the logic being argued, using sarcasm. As you see in the subsequent post, sand beneath toes actually believes infanticide should be legalised.

Some questions Tony Abbott should respond to:

I refer to this article:

Pro-life groups given pregnancy counselling funds
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200511/s1498231.htm

Question 1: As there is 27 times more chance of a woman dying during pregnancy and/or childbirth than that of either surgical abortion or taking an abortion pill (RU486), will the Commonwealth accept liability and provide compensation to a family in the event of death during pregnancy and/or childbirth in the event that counselling being funded by the Commonwealth, designed to discourage women from having abortions, results in a woman deciding to continue with the pregnancy and finding herself among the following statistics:

Report on Maternal Deaths in Australia, 1994-96
http://www.npsu.unsw.edu.au/mda9496preface.htm

“There were 90 maternal deaths in the triennium 1997-99, and there were 758,030 confinements, indicating one maternal death per 8,423 confinements.

Question 2: Will the Commonwealth accept liability and provide compensation in the event a woman regrets her decision to continue with the pregnancy and suffers hardships or depression in life as a result of counselling which may have deterred her from going ahead with an abortion? I refer to this report and expect that the women in Australia would be affected the same way:

Abortion cuts risk of later blues
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17070446%255E23289,00.html
“PROCEEDING with an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy is more likely to cause depression than having an abortion, a controversial new study has found. Researchers in the US questioned 1247 women who aborted or delivered an unwanted first pregnancy between 1970 and 1992. The women were interviewed over several years. The study, published in the British Medical Journal, found that going ahead with an unwanted pregnancy was more likely to lead to depression. “

Felix

A couple of articles for those who do not know the history of this medication and what it does:

ABORTION PILL, OR SOMETHING MORE? THE FIRESTORM OVER THE ABORTION DRUG RU-486 HAS HAMPERED U.S. SCIENTISTS WHO WOULD TEST IT TO FIGHT CANCER AND OTHER CONDITIONS. NORFOLK SCIENTIST GARY D. HODGEN HOPES TO SEE MAJOR STUDIES ON RU-486 ONCE THE FDA APPROVES IT.
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1996/vp960811/08110065.htm

RU-486 Explained
by Heather Guidone
http://www.insiderreports.com/storypage.asp_Q_ChanID_E_HQ_A_StoryID_E_20001536

Felix good questions. Devils advocate. I suppose if the woman decided to continue with the pregnancy then her CHOICE means I think not. Also if she decides to have unprotected sex again probably not. CHOICE is a hard thing.

I note that men are not expected to "jump through hoops" if they make a decision to take viagra or have a vasectomy. They have the right to make up their own mind without being hindered and are considered intelligent enough to be able to make their own decisions. Not so for women, apparently they need to be guided by men such as Tony Abbott and Barnaby Joyce.

Oh Please!!

I understand this argument had ended a few months ago, Although I am still very passionate about the subject as I know many women are.
It has been a strange argument that has reminded as all of abortion.
I think what everyone is forgetting that it is not an argument of abortion. That was finnalised awhile ago (exact date unaware) and is legalised in Australia. The debate is about RU486 and whether is should be introduced. As a female in our community I am concerned about the rate of abortions in Australia and concerned with the social issues around them. But aslong as abortions are being used I would prefer a women to have the option of a less invasive procedure. RU486 carries just as much risk as a surgical abortion, as any procedure to this extent would. Judging the unkown circustances of why women would have an abortion it is not our business. It is our business though to extensively control the environment it is carried out in and make it not as harmful, to maybe a future mother to be.
Invasive surgery can damage the uterus walls and cause future damage. Surgical procedure is invasive and surgical procedure is unnessary when other means are available.