oh su wung,

indeed, and you would have learnt very quickly what i think of and do to old coppers with big mouths!

A Bill of Rights in Australia is needed as a matter of law.

Australia currently suffers and endures a legal system which is both prehistoric and is non conducive to the efficient functioning of our times. The current courts and jurisdictions do not facilitate the efficient functioning of modern litigation.

The almighty Adam Smith in the wealth of nations says it is not the benevolence of the Butcher, Baker or Brewer that we should expect to have our daily feed, but only through their own self interest are they motivated to provide to the thirsty and hungry in our society. I say it is through the self interest of the legal fraternity that we suffer a no bill of rights.

How profound Indeed.

Hi again Chris...

No family, but married twice and the second has been quite successful.

I lost a very very close friend of mine a couple of years ago. He was with 3 RAR (1st tour). He died from a brain tumor. He managed to get through Vietnam OK, but a bloody tumor got him !
He was awarded the OAM (for services to the Veteran Community) a couple of months before he passed away. A special investiture was arranged by the Governor of Queensland (who happened to be a Vet. himself). Dave was also a copper too, we worked together, for some years.

Chris, I can't begin to tell you how much I miss him. A 'hard as nails' good bloke. He managed to get through one of the most intense and protracted battles in the Vietnam War (Fire Support Bases - 'Coral' and 'Balmoral' during May and June 1968). We lost twenty five blokes during the period of 'AO Surfers' !

Anyway Chris, he's gone and nothing can be done about it.

As you said, your marble was not drawn. Your objection to the war was probably well founded too. I suppose you were lucky. Though Chris, I believe you would've answered, if your number was drawn. Both Dave and I were Regulars. So we more or less, expected to go. I certainly don't believe we should be part of the Iraq war either Chris. We don't seem to have learnt anything from Vietnam ?

Thank you for your kind sentiments. I really appreciate them.

o sung wu and chris

you want want to try jumping to

http://63.99.108.76/forums/index.php?act=idx

please don't be distracted by the name of the site, these are, these are, by and large, a great bunch of blokes, whom the two of you may be able to relate to.

Regards

Doug

Hi there Hamlet...

Had a quick look at the site you recommended, looks quite interesting. Thanks for the 'heads-up' on this one Doug, I really appreciate the thought.

Cheers...sung wu.

O sung wu ,
Surely you would not deny police who have strayed from their difficult path and appear to have obviously fallen into the mire of corruption or worse,their "day in court", that Julian Burnside and criminal lawyers try so hard to protect ?