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By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 23/7/2007At last, it is on the record: pornography is a significant factor in the violence and anarchy in Indigenous communities.
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Posted by Lev, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 8:25:11 PM
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yvonne, thank you very well said.
Did you read the intro page to the site. Their was another prohibition which basically said that prostitutes, strippers and porn stars held no blame for porn. Apparently the only people capable of exercising adult decisions about involvement in porn are men. That does not suggest that the author has a very high view of womens ability to make decisions for themselves. I wonder what she makes of amatures posting to porn sites and women who use porn for their own pleasure, I guess thats because some male has victimised them. Really it all gets very insulting to women if you lift the victimisation veil even slightly. There was an interesting item in Brisbanes MX newspaper today about research on why men and women want sex, supposedly 20 of the top 25 reasons are the same for men and women. http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:17610060 gets to a description of the research paper but you seem to need a login to get to the paper. Lev very much an advocacy site rather than any attempt at honest portrayal. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 6:14:29 PM
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R0bert, yes, I read and scrolled through the anti pornography site.
My beef is not about anybody being against pornography per se, but the myth that women are only victims. As you pointed out, it is insulting to women, it insults me at least, that there is this myth going around that women are not really capable of making decisions. Not only that, if a 'wrong' decision is made a woman somehow did so because of some male onslaught against which she is helpless and is personally free of responsibility. To have and be responsible for the self is empowering. I have a teenage daughter and if there is something I want for her is for her to be empowered, to be able to make decisions for herself and accept the consequences/outcomes, both good and bad as her own. Exactly the same I want for my two young adult sons. There are issues in our society that need addressing and debate. Anything that affects our society causes harm to and victimizes BOTH men and women, because both men and women are active perpetrators or complicit. Posted by yvonne, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 6:44:27 PM
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Your comments are quite accurate. The site is clearly thrown together with no real interest in engaging in rigorous analysis of the issue. The author makes this quite clear in the first page, by prohibiting discussion of matter which contradicts their prejudices on the issue.
The statistics are important, but have nothing to do with the topic. The definition initially almost decides to define pornography as violence as a matter of tautology, but then contradicts the definition further on. The final definition (of the author's) is bizarre; it would appear they have an aesthetic distate for men paying money and then masturbating.
Basically, it is epistemologically extremely weak and ontologically random. It is unworthy of serious consideration.