Krusty burger, What hope do WE have of telling Muslims what is and isn't right about Islam? Here are some Sheik Hilali quotes, there are many more just as vile

“Judaism controls the world by…secret movements as the destructive doctrines and groups, such as communism, libertinism, Free Masons, Baha’ism, the Rotary clubs, the nationalistic and racist doctrines. The Jews try to control the world through sex, then sexual perversion, then the promotion of espionage, treason, and economic hoarding”

"September 11 is God's work against oppressors. Some of the things that happen in the world cannot be explained; a civilian airplane whose secrets cannot be explained if we ask its pilot who reached his objective without error, who led your steps? Or if we ask the giant that fell, who humiliated you? Or if we ask the President, who made you cry? God is the answer
He also said
• British and Irish settlers arrived in Australia as convicts. Muslims paid for their own tickets, and so have more right to Australia
• Prison sentences handed down to Lebanese-Australian Muslims for the Sydney gang rapes were excessive and influenced by the September 11, 2001 attacks in the USA
• Western people, especially the English race, are the biggest liars and oppressors

How are we going to have any effect on Muslim youth when their Imams say things like this. Oh and by the way he was Muslim of the Year in Australia in 2005. The Council of Islamic Jurisprudence and Research reappointed Hilaly as Grand Mufti on 10 June 2007, thankfully he declined.

So it is clearly we who are failing young Muslims. Isn’t it?

I'm wondering SHONGA if you use the word "progressive" ironically or not, when referring to your politics. Usually when people apply an intrinsically "good" label to themselves such as "I'm smart, I'm generous, I'm compassionate, I'm progressive" it is either ironical/self-effacing (they recognise that it is only partially true) or else (if not) then a sure sign that that person is a tosser, desperately trying to elevate their own feelings of inferiority/lack of self-worth by narcissistic self-praise. ie no-one else has noticed how "good" they are;how "smart,generous,compassionate,progressive" they are, so they blow "their own trumpet". Anyway, I'm sure you'll now let us know that you WERE ironical and not the other. Cheers.

As for "fear", I'm not sure how this translates into voting intentions. Is "fear" of negotiating your own AWA (ie you are a timid loser, unable to interact in an adult manner with another adult) going to make you vote Labor? Is "fear" of Aborigines coming off the reserves and moving into your suburb, going to make you vote Labor (ie these Aborigines may wish to be protected from endemic violence, in the same way as yourself)?
Is "fear" of having some Leb living up the street, going to make you vote Labor to "encourage" multiculturalism (ie to keep them in their "own" ghetto instead of being assimilated into YOURS). Ah, so many silly ( note;irony SHONGA) questions. Cheers again.