The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Penalty redoubled > Comments

Penalty redoubled : Comments

By Greg Barns, published 16/7/2007

Do we really need a sex offenders' register in Australia?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. Page 3
  5. 4
  6. All
Runner, is there even any evidence that there is a link between pornography and sex crimes? I don’t think that this link has been proven by legitimate studies. If you look at countries where porn is unavailable, there is much violence against women.
99% of people who watch porn never commit sex crimes, just as the vast majority of people who look at car magazines never go for joy rides.

I dare say that countries without obscenity laws don’t have higher rates of sex crimes than countries that have banned pornography.

It would be very undemocratic to ban porn without any valid evidence that it significantly increases sex crimes.
Posted by Celivia, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 12:11:39 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Runner,

Contrary to what you assert, there is no hypocrisy in supporting the rights of adults to view smut and supporting the rights of children to go unmolested.

Fundamentally, the reason sexual crimes (and virtually all crimes) are offensive, is because they involve one person interferring with another.

You, by advocating prohibitions on what consenting adults are permitted to do or look at in the privacy of their own home, are doing your own interfering.

Liberal Democracy forever!
Posted by Kalin1, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 12:17:13 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
There are already cases in the US where teenage boys who have had sex with consenual teenage girls being put on a sex offenders list.

Some have committed suicide.

Here in Australia there was a case where a 19yr old who touched the breast of a 15 yr old with her consent, was convicted of child sex abuse. Subsequently he was put on the sex offenders register and has lost his job.

Whilst it an admirable intention of protecting children from sexual abusers, sometimes thing like this develope a life of their own and goes far beyond the original intention.

For example sources inform me that there is a concerted effort to have fathers who change babies nappies charged with sexual abuse. It has already been tried in the Family court, where the mother alleged that the father sexually abuse because he cleaned the babies bottom whilst changing the nappy.

Hysteria is not rational.
Posted by JamesH, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 1:42:54 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Keeping the pressure on ex-cons and not offering them an equal opportunity to heal is the reason why recidivism is damn near 80% of the incarcerated. Registration lists don't actually accomplish any meaningful recourse for victims of crime or criminals. It does keep the various neighbourhoods in a constant state of disquiet. The average city dweller can't name their immediate neighbour but want to know every criminal by name that leaves prison. At the rate we send people to prison it's going to be a long list to keep track of.
Man or woman does a crime and completes their time it should be the end of the story. Constantly reminding them of their past behavior doesn't create a healing atmosphere. Picking at scabs is only fun for a select few out there who feel their better than anyone else and would never f' up.
Posted by aqvarivs, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 2:16:36 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
"If you sincerely question whether the reasons for this kind of response to sexual abuse are Jungian it would seem to suggest your involvement in such matters comes also simply from reading the papers".

My involvement is not from simply reading the papers. In a previous incarnation, until Centrelink stopped using doctors for medical assessments for DSP last year, I was a medico who saw more than the average of adult women whose lives had been ruined at 3, 4, 5, or 6 years of age and more, who had suffered violent penile/digital penetration at tender ages, and who then carried in to their adult lives, consequent permanent disruption of bladder/bowel function (vesico-vaginal-rectal fistulae etc.) My involvement then, is not from an armchair or a compter desk. All that wanted to address was a seeming disparity of community reaction to sexual as opposed to non-sexual child abuse.
Posted by Doug, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 8:14:15 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I don't know where Greg barns gets his stats from.Most paedophiles do re-offend.The really scary phenominem in our society is for offeners of many persuasions in our society,whether they be sex offenders,murderers or drug pushers is to feel no shame or remorse.They are not connected to mainstream values or empathy.

The continuous stream of soft option articles by the likes of Greg Barns just echoes the decay happening in our society today.If there are no standards or discipline,how can we aspire to a higher state of consciousness?
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 8:36:33 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. Page 3
  5. 4
  6. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy